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Bitch of the Day --2017
FORUMS > General Discussions > Open Forum > Bitch of the Day --2017       04-28-2017 19:29 PM
MY understanding is that all locations were sold out in just a few days.
Bitch of the Day --2017
FORUMS > General Discussions > Open Forum > Bitch of the Day --2017       04-28-2017 18:07 PM
"@HFT: seriously" Annie - are you seriously asking him? "Are you ashamed or embarrassed?" He's neither.
Bitch of the Day --2017
FORUMS > General Discussions > Open Forum > Bitch of the Day --2017       04-28-2017 17:34 PM
BOTD: FoodBabe. That fucking idiot. Had a guest idiot's post re: kale toxicity. Her guest got one thing right re: "the dose makes the poison". But virtually everything else is laughably stupid. And people listen to these idiots...
The morning news anything worth conversing about
FORUMS > General Discussions > Open Forum > The morning news anything worth conversing about       04-28-2017 16:55 PM
re: "Here's Washington's much more well written statute: " I didn't post the statute in its entirety, and someone might take issue with some of what I chose to select to write. Just a bit of a disclaimer.
The morning news anything worth conversing about
FORUMS > General Discussions > Open Forum > The morning news anything worth conversing about       04-28-2017 15:29 PM
Before you bite my head off... I didn't know what ij.o rg was. The Institute for Justice (IJ) is a non-profit libertarian public interest law firm who made the filing in the United States District Court for the District of Oregon on Tuesday. I'm guessing Fun knows who this is, but others may not. They've argued 5 SCOTUS cases, and won 4. The loser was the Kelo v New London case.
The morning news anything worth conversing about
FORUMS > General Discussions > Open Forum > The morning news anything worth conversing about       04-28-2017 15:21 PM
So, in looking at this case on an actual legal website (ij. org), they have some different information.... as I said, this is just the law as its written, I'm not saying I agree with it. - in Oregon, to refer to yourself as an "engineer" under any circumstances when you are not a "state-licensed professional engineer". It doesn't matter if you simply stand up and proclaim it at a party - it's illegal. - The licensing board's major beef was his public discussions, such as going on 60 Minutes which in their opinion amounted to advising on engineering matter when not legally allowed to do so. Here's the actual text of the law defining what is an "engineer" in Oregon: ORS 672.002 defines an engineer: Engineer, professional engineer or registered professional engineer means an individual who is registered in this state and holds a valid certificate to practice engineering in this state as provided under ORS 672.002 to 672.325. [i.e. you are not an engineer unless we say you are] ORS 672.005 defines "practicing engineering" as, among other things : Performing any professional service or creative work requiring engineering education, training and experience. [this guy's work would constitute "creative work"; they appear to be wriggling out of the 'professional' part to say that it only applies to the word "service" and not "creative work"] ORS 672.020 states that: In order to safeguard life, health and property, no person shall practice or offer to practice engineering in this state unless the person is registered and has a valid certificate to practice engineering issued under ORS 672.002 ----------- He paid the fine. So he is fighting it in federal court. He is NOT claiming that Oregon's law is being misapplied to him, but rather than Oregon's law is unconstitutional under the 1st amendment. The writers of the legal blog agree that he's basically screwed under Oregon law, but that Oregon law should be found unconstitutional. Oregon's "you ain't an engineer" laws have been used many times in the past to shut people up who say things they don't want to hear, such as a retired engineer complaining that city engineers flooded his basement, signing his letter "PE" (professional engineer), which he was in Maryland for decades, but Oregon doesn't recognize that so they fined him $350 and subjected him to "years of government enforcement" (I didn't go further to find out what that means) an electoral candidate's voter pamphlet referred to himself as having a "background in environmental engineering" (in Massachusetts). Oregon took the position that if you weren't an engineer in Oregon, you were never an engineer at all and pursued action against him A (losing) Republican primary candidate for governor of Oregon in 2016, had this language in a campaign ad : "I’ll take a different approach. I’m an engineer and a problem solver.” (He earned a B.S. in Mechanical Engineering from Purdue University, worked as an engineer at Ford and Boeing, and holds a string of engineering-related awards.) But that ain't good enough for Oregon! It's been 10 months and Oregon is still on his ass and refuses to close the case against him.
The morning news anything worth conversing about
FORUMS > General Discussions > Open Forum > The morning news anything worth conversing about       04-28-2017 14:09 PM
Are you sure about that? That would be attempting to use one's purported expertise in order to potentially influence public health policy. I realize that this happens all the time, and it's stupid to actually prosecute on it. But as you said "He was establishing credibility to make the complaints " - exactly. Representing yourself as "qualified" when you are not is the problem here. I think the definition of "qualified" is, in this instance, absurd, but I didn't write it into law. In many states (Oregon potentially being one) mere "analysis" for an external entity, paid or unpaid, constitutes "practicing engineering". It does not have to involve any sort of contract or payment. For the record I think the whole thing is stupid. But I don't think it's legally quite all that absurd. From a practical standpoint, hell yes. The state are idiots to actually pursue it.
Happy Thoughts and Bitchfest
FORUMS > General Discussions > Open Forum > Happy Thoughts and Bitchfest       04-28-2017 13:34 PM
Everything I said previously about wasting time trying to argue or reason with ncal also applies to HFT.
The morning news anything worth conversing about
FORUMS > General Discussions > Open Forum > The morning news anything worth conversing about       04-28-2017 13:33 PM
I see where Current is coming from, and if he were selling his services as an engineer, that might be more relevant. Although... if a non-physician gathered data - without in any way interfering with care or advising anyone - and then prepared a report with recommendations to the state, wouldn't that be considered "practicing medicine without a license"? So basically - *technically* the state may be in the right by accusing him of "practicing engineering without a license", but they are being dicks about it. Fun Fact: In Florida, you need a license to be an interior decorator.
The morning news anything worth conversing about
FORUMS > General Discussions > Open Forum > The morning news anything worth conversing about       04-28-2017 09:55 AM
David Dao's legal team announced that they have reached a settlement with the airline for undisclosed amount. The agreement includes a provision that the amount will remain confidential. So - that's over.
How's the Weather Out There
FORUMS > General Discussions > Open Forum > How's the Weather Out There       04-28-2017 09:45 AM
We badly need rain here. We haven't had any measurable rain in over a month, far below normal. The pond out front of our house is 7 feet below the grass. The turtles are all laying out in the sun, though, so it's kind of cute. They are on the move though and I have to keep stopping my car and moving them off the road, lest they become as flat as Andrew's earth.
A Film You Can Watch Over And Over
FORUMS > General Discussions > Open Forum > A Film You Can Watch Over And Over       04-28-2017 09:39 AM
I see what you did there. I have a bunch of movies that I sometimes throw on while I'm working out. It's best when it's a movie I'm already quite familiar with, so I don't really need to watch it, and if I miss some dialogue it's no big deal. Among them - Fight Club. Sucker Punch. The Shawshank Redemption. The Lord of the Rings. Django Unchained. Kill Bill. Inglorious Basterds. The Godfather (I and II).
How's the Weather Out There
FORUMS > General Discussions > Open Forum > How's the Weather Out There       04-28-2017 09:37 AM
95 degrees today. 97 yesterday. Summer's here....
If You Could Only Have One
FORUMS > General Discussions > Open Forum > If You Could Only Have One       04-28-2017 09:36 AM
Scientific American IYCOHO: Book of puzzles or brain-benders (such as crosswords, logic puzzles, etc)
What's your WOD (workout of the day)
FORUMS > General Discussions > Fitness > What's your WOD (workout of the day)       04-28-2017 08:13 AM
SCratch the leg day. I haven't had a day off of weights in 10 days, and my knees just couldn't do it this morning.
Goals - long and short term
FORUMS > General Discussions > Fitness > Goals - long and short term       04-28-2017 05:50 AM
So - 45 days in (I say "Day 43" of Insanity because I missed a couple of days, so I bumped the schedule down). I am giving the "From" and "To" numbers. Of note, in the last 2 weeks I missed 1 day of Insanity, missed 3 days of weights, and basically ate like a pig and drank like a fish while some friends were visiting. SOooo I'm not really surprised that progress was somewhat muted. I'm also now one week into Month 2 of Insanity, and I'm already doing somewhat better on the workouts the 2nd time around with them. ----- Weight: From 213 To 213 (-0 pounds). No net weight change now after 45 days! But I look quite different... Body fat: From 19.4% to 16.6% (-2.8%) Fat Mass: From 41.3 lb to 35.4 lb (-5.9 lb) Lean Mass: From 171.7 lb to 177.6 lb (+5.9 lb) ---------
What's your WOD (workout of the day)
FORUMS > General Discussions > Fitness > What's your WOD (workout of the day)       04-28-2017 05:45 AM
Max Cardio Conditioning - Day 43 of Insanity. Plus legs.
Fitness Bitchfest
FORUMS > General Discussions > Fitness > Fitness Bitchfest       04-28-2017 05:44 AM
I work from home so I have the advantage of being 10 feet from my bedroom most of the time. I take a 20-30 minute nap almost every day at around 1:30. Totally brings me back.
Bitch of the Day --2017
FORUMS > General Discussions > Open Forum > Bitch of the Day --2017       04-27-2017 21:42 PM
"And they are both pissed at me because they each think I took the other's side." There's your problem. If two women are fighting, getting involved will only result in both of them angry at you.
If You Could Only Have One
FORUMS > General Discussions > Open Forum > If You Could Only Have One       04-27-2017 21:09 PM
Asian Zing at BWW IYCOHO: Fruit
A Song to Suit your current Mood
FORUMS > General Discussions > Open Forum > A Song to Suit your current Mood       04-27-2017 20:51 PM
Get some whiskey while you're watching it. And possibly some eye bleach...
A Song to Suit your current Mood
FORUMS > General Discussions > Open Forum > A Song to Suit your current Mood       04-27-2017 20:46 PM
For the love of all things holy... I've posted this before, but it never fails to get a reaction. tbr said this might be his ex's family, I believe. G.O.A.T. and your M.O.M. ~ Quack Like a Duck w ww.youtube.co m/watch?v=pM8n72WZTlA And NO this doesn't suit my current mood, but it does make me want to drink.
the perfect birthday present for your wife is?
FORUMS > General Discussions > Men Talk > the perfect birthday present for your wife is?       04-27-2017 20:36 PM
Or get waxed.
LIMERICKS Thread -
FORUMS > General Discussions > Open Forum > LIMERICKS Thread -       04-27-2017 20:28 PM
Even though they are not very far just a 2 hour ride in the car we now have been blocked from viewing been locked there is no chance of a drink in a bar
What's for Dinner
FORUMS > General Discussions > Open Forum > What's for Dinner       04-27-2017 19:20 PM
Porterhouse and spicy green beans. I've been attempting for some time to approximate the spicy green beans from PF Chang's, which are spectacular. I changed my approach tonight, and I think I'm on the right track....
100 Days Of illegitimate Executive Office For America's Fascist Demogogue
FORUMS > General Discussions > Politics > 100 Days Of illegitimate Executive Office For America's Fascist Demogogue       04-27-2017 17:32 PM
And just 1,345 (or 2,806!) days left of you moaning about it.
Happy Thoughts and Bitchfest
FORUMS > General Discussions > Open Forum > Happy Thoughts and Bitchfest       04-27-2017 17:30 PM
I'm thinking about starting a Come Fuck Me page. Or a Go Fuck Yourself page :P
A Song to Suit your current Mood
FORUMS > General Discussions > Open Forum > A Song to Suit your current Mood       04-27-2017 17:29 PM
"Lettuce, plate, bun!" You really surprise me sometimes. Rain ~ Project Pitchfork
How's the Weather Out There
FORUMS > General Discussions > Open Forum > How's the Weather Out There       04-27-2017 17:27 PM
97 and sunny today. Same tomorrow. Gonna be a hot baseball game...
If You Could Only Have One
FORUMS > General Discussions > Open Forum > If You Could Only Have One       04-27-2017 17:26 PM
Ok.... IYCOHO: Forum participant you wish could understand how this thread works.
Happy Thoughts and Bitchfest
FORUMS > General Discussions > Open Forum > Happy Thoughts and Bitchfest       04-27-2017 13:45 PM
"...Buy Meds, Loser. " Who is that for?
Happy Thoughts and Bitchfest
FORUMS > General Discussions > Open Forum > Happy Thoughts and Bitchfest       04-27-2017 13:30 PM
#BlackLeatherMatters
The SLS Purge
FORUMS > General Discussions > Open Forum > The SLS Purge       04-27-2017 08:27 AM
Looks like I've got one more as of last night.
What's your WOD (workout of the day)
FORUMS > General Discussions > Fitness > What's your WOD (workout of the day)       04-27-2017 06:26 AM
Insanity Day 42 - Rest Day!!! And arms. Tomorrow is 45 days.... next update in the "Goals" thread.
Happy Thought of the Day for Fit People
FORUMS > General Discussions > Fitness > Happy Thought of the Day for Fit People       04-27-2017 06:25 AM
Nice!
If You Could Only Have One
FORUMS > General Discussions > Open Forum > If You Could Only Have One       04-27-2017 06:22 AM
Isaac Newton. IYCOHO: pasta type
Who Are You Politically, and Why
FORUMS > General Discussions > Politics > Who Are You Politically, and Why       04-26-2017 20:40 PM
I totally agree a perfect system is not possible. But I'm quite certain that most people with decent insurance would be appalled at the reduction in their care under the Canadian system.
LIMERICKS Thread -
FORUMS > General Discussions > Open Forum > LIMERICKS Thread -       04-26-2017 20:14 PM
BT was kinda pissy his interest in my missy had become high I don't know why his fit has become hissy
Happy Thoughts and Bitchfest
FORUMS > General Discussions > Open Forum > Happy Thoughts and Bitchfest       04-26-2017 20:13 PM
I mean, I was joking about taking care of the black sheep. It just wasn't an "inappropriate" joke.
Happy Thoughts and Bitchfest
FORUMS > General Discussions > Open Forum > Happy Thoughts and Bitchfest       04-26-2017 19:49 PM
It's actually not. It's not innuendo or a sexual remark. We have a black sheep.
Happy Thoughts and Bitchfest
FORUMS > General Discussions > Open Forum > Happy Thoughts and Bitchfest       04-26-2017 19:40 PM
"My mom loved a "Project". She still does, the more broken, the more she NEEDEDS to help." Does she want another?
Who Are You Politically, and Why
FORUMS > General Discussions > Politics > Who Are You Politically, and Why       04-26-2017 19:35 PM
"your coverage depends on your check" To some extent, this is true in virtually every country. Most countries have 2-tiered systems. The UK/France etc have a public system, which is basically like Medicaid except everyone qualifies, and then a private system which anyone with means pays into and it's like the US. In Canada your basic system is like Medicaid. The government runs everything with respect to primary care, and your choices are near-zero. If your physician refers you to a specialist (who is probably his golf buddy) and their waiting list for an appointment is 10 weeks there is NOTHING YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT. If your MRI appointment is in 4 months and you don't want to wait that long there is NOTHING YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT. Well, ok there is one thing - go to the US. I actually looked it up right now - the expected wait time for an MRI in the Niagara region, where I grew up, is 138 days. For a hip replacement it's 191 days (233 Ontario average). You wait wait wait wait. And btw - it's just primary care that's covered. For prescriptions, dental, home health/rehab/etc - it's exactly like the US. Lots of "young invincibles" get prescriptions they can't pay for because their employer doesn't cover them. You're on your own unless you're on public assistance. My Dad has Blue Cross Blue Shield. In Canada. I'm not slagging it entirely. I'm just saying that the American concept of Canadian health care is grossly incorrect.
Quote of the Day - Meaningful, provocative and amusing quotes
FORUMS > General Discussions > Open Forum > Quote of the Day - Meaningful, provocative and amusing quotes       04-26-2017 19:23 PM
"Not all those who wander are lost" - Tolkien
Happy Thoughts and Bitchfest
FORUMS > General Discussions > Open Forum > Happy Thoughts and Bitchfest       04-26-2017 19:22 PM
Ditto to what BT said, SOTW. It is admirable to do such a thing. I wish I could say I have ever done something quite as noble. Best I've got is that at a homeless shelter in Ottawa, Ontario, there is a sign over a door that reads the Tolkien quote "Not all who wander are lost." There's a story behind that but I'm afraid I can't really share it here.
Who Are You Politically, and Why
FORUMS > General Discussions > Politics > Who Are You Politically, and Why       04-26-2017 19:16 PM
That little speech is not exhaustive, but it's something to go with.
Who Are You Politically, and Why
FORUMS > General Discussions > Politics > Who Are You Politically, and Why       04-26-2017 19:15 PM
So with regards to who I am politically... I am best described as a small L libertarian, meaning that I want libertarian principles applied wherever practical, understanding that that's not always going to be possible. But I think in many, nay, most cases, it is. In short - I'm a big "Bill of Rights" guy. I'm pro free speech and anti-government interference in religion or endorsement thereof. I'm huge on the concept of process - doing everything the right way, even though that can be frustratingly rigid at times. For example - I'm all for gay marriage, but I despise how it came about at the national level. I do not believe that this was a federal government issue (Obama and I have identical opinions on this). 36 states had already fixed the issue for themselves and the number was growing fast. But when the feds came in and just took the issue, a lot of people felt like the process had been circumvented and it was something of a dirty trick. In other words, it de-legitimized it. Anyway - in short, I'm about taking the feds out of everything possible. I see no need for a federal Dept of Education. In most respects, but not all, the states can run things themselves. I basically want the social liberal philosophies of Democrats with the economic liberal philosophies of Republicans. Or rather, what they both say their philosophies are. I'm big on contract enforcement and property rights. I would wholeheartedly ditch our current tax structure in favor of the FairTax. I find some tax concepts like inheritance taxes abhorrent. I hate politicians using the tax code for their own personal ambitions. I hate government playing favorites to certain industries and companies.
Who Are You Politically, and Why
FORUMS > General Discussions > Politics > Who Are You Politically, and Why       04-26-2017 18:37 PM
"but "neither" makes no sense" I have said, and will say again, that is a consumer good. It is not a privilege (as the word is defined) at all, since most people have it, and a fair number of people who don't have it are people who easily could but choose not to (mostly the young invincibles, also people who are eligible for Medicaid and simply don't take it). It just doesn't meet the definition of "privilege", any more than having a roof over your head does. Now, as for what I think it SHOULD be... I wouldn't be unwilling to go down the road of something that provided a basic system for all, but I'd be extremely hesitant to do so. I grew up in the Canadian system and fuck no I do not want that. And neither do you. The only people who would be better off under the Canadian system are people who currently have nothing. Everyone else would be floored as to how difficult health care is there. Neither Canadians or Americans understand each other's system. Canadians think Americans are basically fucked all the time and only rich people have health insurance or get even their basic health care needs met. Americans think Canadians get whatever they need any time for free. Both are completely wrong. I didn't know you were a physician. I suspected so, and asked you directly a few times, but you never answered. I wonder if we've ever audited anything of yours....
A Song to Suit your current Mood
FORUMS > General Discussions > Open Forum > A Song to Suit your current Mood       04-26-2017 16:51 PM
Murderous ~ Nitzer Ebb
The morning news anything worth conversing about
FORUMS > General Discussions > Open Forum > The morning news anything worth conversing about       04-26-2017 15:38 PM
I notice the distinct lack of Rabbit... but she's more than 36 inches tall.
Beathchoo widda stroller Blues
FORUMS > General Discussions > Open Forum > Beathchoo widda stroller Blues       04-26-2017 15:37 PM
All my bags are packed, I'm running late I'm standing here outside the gate I hate to get bumped, God I hate to fly But my nose is breakin' I'm getting pulled The cops are fightin' as I'm being culled I'm forced to vacate I will cry So punch me and take video Post it on vimeo I'm scream like something you've never heard I'm leavin' from this jet plane I'll be back in 5 minutes again Oh, lawyer, I'll give you a call
LIMERICKS Thread -
FORUMS > General Discussions > Open Forum > LIMERICKS Thread -       04-26-2017 15:21 PM
HAHA I never noticed that Tricky is written in limericks.... I met this little girlie her hair was kinda curly Went to her house and bust her out I had to leave real early These girls are really sleazy all they just say is please me Or spend some time and rock a rhyme I said "It's not that easy
The morning news anything worth conversing about
FORUMS > General Discussions > Open Forum > The morning news anything worth conversing about       04-26-2017 15:11 PM
It is now being reported that the rabbit was moving around in its crate and appeared healthy when taken off the plane. About a half-hour later, at the pet facility, it seemed to be sleeping. Shortly after that, a pet facility employee opened the cage and found that the rabbit was dead. We won't know how it died because the owner declined the offer of a necropsy. So - what now?
The morning news anything worth conversing about
FORUMS > General Discussions > Open Forum > The morning news anything worth conversing about       04-26-2017 14:46 PM
(not that many in here care much about this) Kevin O'Leary (yes, Shark Tank guy) is dropping out of the leadership race for the Conservative Party of Canada. A lot of people were rooting for him.
Who Are You Politically, and Why
FORUMS > General Discussions > Politics > Who Are You Politically, and Why       04-26-2017 14:42 PM
You said several times (and even said "I say it again:" healthcare is a right, not privilege in this country. So I suppose you said "It is a right - we can argue about how to achieve this" once, which is saying it is a right, and then saying it's not and it should be, which is somewhere between confusion and contradiction, and "healthcare is a right, not privilege in this country". TWICE. Only a fool would continue at this point to now try to argue that you haven't been insisting it is a right all along. As for taking a stance - if you're referring to question #3 below, I answered it. Twice. Once just below, and earlier (a different version of it) when you asked if it was a right or a consumer good, and I said it was a consumer good. -------- You have a major problem. While I appreciate that English is not your first language (and under no circumstances do I fault you for that), I have no option but to have discussions assuming that you mean what you say. So if you meant something else - OWN IT - don't act like I'm the idiot when you've said something different and then defended it like crazy only to then say "that's not what I meant". Likewise with your misinterpretation (or outright missing) repeated answers to your evolving questions and then accusing me of being evasive. I have rather vast amounts of patience for people whose first language isn't English. But if they act like I'm an idiot for the barriers in communication we have (spoken in English), my patience becomes substantially reduced. I've worked with scores of people from all over the world, with English language skills ranging from excellent to butchery, but not one of them ever had the ballsack to ridicule everyone else when they said something incorrectly. So grow up and take some responsibility for the things you say and read.
Who Are You Politically, and Why
FORUMS > General Discussions > Politics > Who Are You Politically, and Why       04-26-2017 14:10 PM
"..I guess I have to spell it out: " Don't be a jerk like I'm being dense here. Almost everything you are NOW saying are things you didn't say before. Don't make your problems with English and typing into mine.
Who Are You Politically, and Why
FORUMS > General Discussions > Politics > Who Are You Politically, and Why       04-26-2017 14:09 PM
"1. healthcare in US as of now is a privilege." Def: a right, immunity, or benefit enjoyed only by a person beyond the advantages of most. Because, you know, most people don't have health care. Next - "2. For me this is wrong and thats why the principle I live by is that healthcare must be a right of every American." You have spent this entire argument CLEARLY stating that healthcare IS a right, not that it must be a right. "3. My question to you is : Do YOU think healthcare should be right or privilege ? Your principle in life." Perhaps you should get your question and statements correct in the first place. The answer to THIS question is - neither. It should not be a privilege (as defined above). It also shouldn't be a right because if it is that means free government healthcare for everyone.
Who Are You Politically, and Why
FORUMS > General Discussions > Politics > Who Are You Politically, and Why       04-26-2017 12:59 PM
Ha damn you're right. That's in the Declaration of Independence. Duh. My fault for bringing it up. Sar's fault for running with it.
What's your WOD (workout of the day)
FORUMS > General Discussions > Fitness > What's your WOD (workout of the day)       04-26-2017 12:39 PM
Insanity day 41, plus legs. Rest day for Insanity tomorrow! Yay!
WTF
FORUMS > General Discussions > Open Forum > WTF       04-26-2017 12:20 PM
Not any more. There used to be. DC used to have several cities, including Georgetown, Alexandria and Arlington. In 1846 Alexandria and Arlington were ceded back to Virginia. Interestingly, this meant that during the civil war, the northern border of the Confederacy was less than a mile from the White House.
Who Are You Politically, and Why
FORUMS > General Discussions > Politics > Who Are You Politically, and Why       04-26-2017 12:16 PM
"You dismiss "life liberty and pursue of happiness" since your life is ready amazing so for you its lame. " No, it's lame because you are expanding "life liberty and pursuit of happiness" to include anything you feel like someone needs. People use it to include food, housing, healthcare, education.. OK this is sounding more like the Soviet Union. No, it doesn't mean you get anything you need, and no sane human makes that case. In 2008 Barack Obama declared that health care “should be a right for every American”. What is implicit about this statement is that "should be right" means that it's not ACTUALLY a right. I'm not even arguing seriously about whether or not it SHOULD be. You are saying it IS. If it is, stop paying your premiums (or for anything in health care), get a lawyer, and march into court demanding your rights, because positive rights (such as provision of legal representation) require the government to provide it for you. Let's see if the courts agree with you. If they do, you'll change the country. btw if you think that all (or even most) other industrialized countries cover all health care needs, I've got some news for you....
Who Are You Politically, and Why
FORUMS > General Discussions > Politics > Who Are You Politically, and Why       04-26-2017 12:04 PM
"..but I still dont have your answer: is healthcare a right of every American or is it a consumer good ?" That's because you never asked it. If you did you've deleted it. It's a consumer good. You may argue that that ought not to be the case, but for now, it is. From the article you just posted: "The United States is also the only industrialized country in the world that does not provide a plan for universal health care coverage and some kind of legal recognition of a right to care." So, sorry bud, even your own source makes my case for me. Your article is an opinion complaining that the US is in violation of international law for not offering some sort of legal right to healthcare. It is not a law or policy. There are many who argue both for an against that, for instance : ncbi.nlm.nih.g ov/pmc/articles/PMC4546170/ Would you accept my link (which admittedly I just pulled out of my ass) as evidence that there ISN'T one? I didn't think so. So I do not accept yours.
Passage Key
FORUMS > General Discussions > Open Forum > Passage Key       04-26-2017 11:15 AM
Put up a Hot Date.
LIMERICKS Thread -
FORUMS > General Discussions > Open Forum > LIMERICKS Thread -       04-26-2017 10:53 AM
OK I admit I feel slightly guilty for this one, because it's not really fair to post about someone I've chosen to block. But I'm doing it anyway, because sometimes I'm an asshole. There once was a man from Ukiah with the brains of an unripe papaya he droned on and on from dusk until dawn and became the fora's pariah
Plagiarizing someone's profile
FORUMS > General Discussions > Open Forum > Plagiarizing someone's profile       04-26-2017 10:48 AM
Nah it's fine. I do my best to be entertaining. Sometimes I'm moderately successful.
Plagiarizing someone's profile
FORUMS > General Discussions > Open Forum > Plagiarizing someone's profile       04-26-2017 10:41 AM
Send it to courthouse in Ukiah, California. Since their village idiot left they probably feel lost without some degree of idiocy.
WTF
FORUMS > General Discussions > Open Forum > WTF       04-26-2017 10:37 AM
Well this is depressing... apparently there are enough people who don't know what the "District of Columbia" is that we have to change how we refer to it. Instead of the current driver’s license, which lists “District of Columbia” at the top, the D.C. Department of Motor Vehicles will soon issue licenses that say “Washington, D.C.” Lucinda Babers, director of the DMV, said the change “better represents the city and will reduce confusion.” The decision comes after residents reported ID-related issues at concession stands, liquor stores and airports. “It is our capital, so there really shouldn’t be any confusion,” said Ashley Brandt, who was hassled a few years back at an airport while trying to board a flight using her D.C. driver’s license. Brandt was flying back from Phoenix in 2014 when a Transportation Security Administration agent checked her identification, became confused and said she did not think the TSA could accept it. “She asked if I had my passport instead,” Brandt said. “I did have a moment of panic that I wasn’t going to be able to get on my flight.” Brandt said the issue was cleared up when the agent spoke to a supervisor.
Fun Facts
FORUMS > General Discussions > Open Forum > Fun Facts       04-26-2017 10:34 AM
Fun Fact: 38 years after the end of Khmer Rouge rule in Cambodia (resulting in the killings of at least 1.7 million), 19 years after the death of Pol Pot, 11 years and $300 million in costs of United Nations war crimes tribunals.... it's all finally over. The result: 3 convictions. 2 of them sentenced to life in prison are now 90 and 85 years old. Efforts well spent.
Plagiarizing someone's profile
FORUMS > General Discussions > Open Forum > Plagiarizing someone's profile       04-26-2017 10:28 AM
Well, to be honest, they have to neither ask nor tell you. Unless you plan to copyright your profile and then pursue legal action... which seems like a whole world of wasted effort...
Quote of the Day - Meaningful, provocative and amusing quotes
FORUMS > General Discussions > Open Forum > Quote of the Day - Meaningful, provocative and amusing quotes       04-26-2017 09:24 AM
I don't think so. If it's been quoted before, my apologies for the repetition. OK I searched the fora. It's been mentioned many, many times. I don't know how I missed it.
Plagiarizing someone's profile
FORUMS > General Discussions > Open Forum > Plagiarizing someone's profile       04-26-2017 09:22 AM
We've had people email us and ask/inform us about their intention to "borrow" some of our verbiage. I don't really mind. The most reactions are with respect to the "brain dead orangutan" line. More often, we get inquiries about our tag line. Some people google it first and then write in hysterics after watching the video. If you've seen that one, then look up "Wash Yo Damn Nuts" on youtube.
Gumby Appreciation Day
FORUMS > General Discussions > Open Forum > Gumby Appreciation Day       04-26-2017 09:19 AM
"Gumbies, dammit. GUMBIES!" Eddie Murphy visits the fora....
The morning news anything worth conversing about
FORUMS > General Discussions > Open Forum > The morning news anything worth conversing about       04-26-2017 08:16 AM
Apparently United transported around 98,000 animals last year. 14 died during their flights. This is reportedly very slightly higher than industry average. We have no information with respect to how many would have died no matter what; certainly it's some, and certainly it's higher the longer the flight. Rabbits should be easy to bring in the cabin I would imagine, since they aren't noisy animals. This particular one was very large and probably would have required a seat purchase to bring it in the cabin. From my limited understanding of rabbits, the are not good at dealing with stress, and fatal "panic attacks" are not unheard of. Ie United probably did nothing wrong, but that doesn't matter. We are currently in "fuck United!" mode.
The morning news anything worth conversing about
FORUMS > General Discussions > Open Forum > The morning news anything worth conversing about       04-26-2017 06:01 AM
The pile-on continues and is getting stupider.... United Airlines is investigating the death of a giant rabbit which was being transported on one of its planes. The 90cm-long bunny, called Simon, was found dead in the cargo hold when the flight arrived at Chicago's O'Hare airport from London Heathrow. -----
Plagiarizing someone's profile
FORUMS > General Discussions > Open Forum > Plagiarizing someone's profile       04-26-2017 05:42 AM
They even have the same profile name format (6 seemingly random letters, although likely they mean something to you). You'll likely find this post removed by the admin staff (assuming they notice it) rather soon, since it's against the TOS to open a thread for the purposes of calling someone else out. While I frown upon the practice, I don't think there really is anything you can do.
Gumby Appreciation Day
FORUMS > General Discussions > Open Forum > Gumby Appreciation Day       04-26-2017 05:39 AM
We had one who was reportedly 7'10 and 164 lbs email us a few days ago. They always write such brilliant messages.
Quote of the Day - Meaningful, provocative and amusing quotes
FORUMS > General Discussions > Open Forum > Quote of the Day - Meaningful, provocative and amusing quotes       04-25-2017 23:29 PM
Saw this on Facebook... Arguing with idiots is like playing chess with a pigeon. No matter how it goes, they'll just shit on the board and strut around like they won anyway.
spring time for cons and scams
FORUMS > General Discussions > Open Forum > spring time for cons and scams       04-25-2017 22:29 PM
Those guys, you call them "Mugu", which is West African slang for "fool" or "idiot". (they refer to their marks or suckers as "mugu") Look up ScamBaitCentral on youtube. They are calls where they drags these assholes along for 30-90 minutes and drive them crazy. Hysterical.
Just Wondering
FORUMS > General Discussions > Open Forum > Just Wondering       04-25-2017 22:28 PM
I've invented innumerable ingenious alliterations intended for inhabitants of the internet and intend to do so indefinitely.
Fun Facts
FORUMS > General Discussions > Open Forum > Fun Facts       04-25-2017 22:23 PM
Fun fact: It's been at least 25 years since I attempted to have a serious conversation about that with anyone. I don't intend on breaking my streak now.
WTF
FORUMS > General Discussions > Open Forum > WTF       04-25-2017 22:22 PM
Hey I'm pitching this Saturday at the same stadium Jackie Robinson was thrown out of in the movie "42". That's probably enough information to figure out who I am, but oh well.
spring time for cons and scams
FORUMS > General Discussions > Open Forum > spring time for cons and scams       04-25-2017 22:21 PM
We unfortunately cannot ignore unfamiliar numbers because our phone lines are also our work lines, and we do get cold calls. One time I had "Unknown Number" appear on the call display. I considered picking up the phone and making fart noises or something. It was actually the police department in Columbia, SC. Oops. I posted this a while back if you have scam calls from people in India (it's easy to recognize the accent). If you tell them to fuck off in English, they don't really care, but if you insult them in Hindi - WOW. Some of them get real mad. Here's a repost: If they are those Indian scammers calling you about Windows support, here are some words to use back to them in Hindi: Bhenchod [BEN-chode] (sister-fucker) Bhosdike [BOS-dee-kay] (a man whose wife is a prostitute) Chutiya [CHEW-tee-ah] (loose vagina - used like "asshole") Madarchod [MAD-ur-chode] (motherfucker)
What's for Dinner
FORUMS > General Discussions > Open Forum > What's for Dinner       04-25-2017 22:17 PM
I dunno. They just amuse me. Like the first time I heard the term "tofurkey". Mrs. VA's FIL calls meatless hot dogs "Not Dogs".
WTF
FORUMS > General Discussions > Open Forum > WTF       04-25-2017 22:16 PM
I noted once upon a time that most things that teammates yell from the bench could be sexually slanted: "GET DOWN!" "EAT IT!" "SHOOT 4!" "STAY UP!" "YOU'RE IN!"
Fun Facts
FORUMS > General Discussions > Open Forum > Fun Facts       04-25-2017 22:13 PM
Fun Fact (given the discussion on cell phones "having come a long way") The first mobile phone service was actually launched in the St. Louis area on June 17, 1946. Yes, 1946. Mobile Telephone service was commercialized by AT&T in 1949 and expanded to over 100 cities, but still had only a small number of subscribers - about 5,000. The equipment weighed 80 pounds and most were installed inside of vehicles, although some were installed in buildings for which a hard line would not be practical. It wasn't truly a "mobile phone" service. You basically talked via a radio signal to a local operator who would then patch you through to the number you needed to call. So it was phone-radio-operator-landline-phone, basically. I mean, it worked. 70 years ago. The first (I believe) appearance of a mobile phone was by Humphrey Bogart in the 1954 film Sabrina. Of course these early phone were fraught with difficulty and very expensive. Unless you had the means and REALLY needed one, you didn't have one.
Just Wondering
FORUMS > General Discussions > Open Forum > Just Wondering       04-25-2017 22:04 PM
"Of course you weren't serious. " And of course I wasn't serious in asking if you were. :)
Just Wondering
FORUMS > General Discussions > Open Forum > Just Wondering       04-25-2017 22:04 PM
Ah I was not familiar with the term "tautogram". At first I thought it might be synonymous with "anagram", because in chemistry a "tautomer" is a different (and temporary) rearrangement the bonds within a molecule, with no change to its formula. It's not quite a tautomer though if EVERY word doesn't begin with the same letter, right? *blush* thank you Annie. Felonious fornicating feels fantastically fortuitous, for my flimsy phallus flicks up forcefully with a forthright form following friendly fondling.
WTF
FORUMS > General Discussions > Open Forum > WTF       04-25-2017 21:54 PM
"maybe one day you can show me your wind up and your pitch" I thought you'd be more interested in my bat and balls. Or my slide into home.
What's for Dinner
FORUMS > General Discussions > Open Forum > What's for Dinner       04-25-2017 19:24 PM
LMAO I love the names.
What's for Dinner
FORUMS > General Discussions > Open Forum > What's for Dinner       04-25-2017 19:09 PM
I was hoping it would be another amusing name for faux meat (porq, beaf, etc...) Did you ever try the trick to use hot salt water to drive the water out of tofu to help it crisp up? I think it was you I told about it but I couldn't remember the details. I found the method... - Press the block of super-firm tofu between paper towels like you normally would for about 15 minutes. Keep it in the fridge while you're doing it - Bring a quart (or whatever "enough" water will be) of water to a boil. Add 3 (yes, 3) tbsp salt for every quart of water. This will make the water a little saltier than seawater. - Cut the block into whatever sized pieces you need and put them in a heat-proof container (like an empty pot) - Pour just enough water over the tofu pieces to submerge the pieces. Leave the lid off. The cold tofu will cool the boiling water down quickly so you only want enough to cover it and "shock" the outside of the pieces. - After 15 minutes drain the water away and spread the tofu out on paper towels. - Proceed with tofu cooking madness. Note that the purpose of the salt is to denature the protein, not flavor it (although it will to some extent). You can use salt other than plain ol' table salt but it won't help any more. If you use ones with significant amounts of other minerals it can hamper the protein tightening and interfere with the process.
Just Wondering
FORUMS > General Discussions > Open Forum > Just Wondering       04-25-2017 18:33 PM
JW if tbr thought I was serious.
Just Wondering
FORUMS > General Discussions > Open Forum > Just Wondering       04-25-2017 18:13 PM
Oh and I appreciate that there may be some who feel the same about me and my profilic pontification of pantomathic proverbs and prose.
Just Wondering
FORUMS > General Discussions > Open Forum > Just Wondering       04-25-2017 18:12 PM
JW if SLS would entertain the idea of not including posts by ncal in the red numbers when fora have new posts. Seeing Open Forum (12) sounds interesting, until you realize it's just 12 posts from ncal.
What kind of phone do you have?
FORUMS > General Discussions > Open Forum > What kind of phone do you have?       04-25-2017 18:09 PM
iPhone 5S. Wife has a Samsung S7 I think. The new one not the one that blows up.
Nerdy stuff
FORUMS > General Discussions > Open Forum > Nerdy stuff       04-25-2017 17:14 PM
I'm considered a nerd but don't care about any of those things. Ask me about the 1804 silver dollar, though... or the legend on 1911 Canadian coins...
Bitch of the Day --2017
FORUMS > General Discussions > Open Forum > Bitch of the Day --2017       04-25-2017 17:02 PM
So some of you are probably aware of this "March for Science" that happened last week. In spirit, I like it. In practice, it was overrun with people who don't have a clue. Most people *say* that are pro-science but then discount the science that they don't like. You have the deniers of evolution and global warming. You have the deniers of vaccines and modern medicine. You have those who embrace faith healing, magical amulets, healing crystals and pyramids and whatever ballyhoo you can name. Sometimes all of them. Most of the people out there were motivated by a dislike of a certain someone and his perceived hostility to science. Or rather, like the marchers themselves, his hostility to science he doesn't like.
Who Are You Politically, and Why
FORUMS > General Discussions > Politics > Who Are You Politically, and Why       04-25-2017 16:54 PM
"businesses can choose to do business the way they see fit.....dont be surprised if your business goes to shit." ****I largely agree with you. This is however mostly a Republican stand right now though, so I'm surprised to hear this out of you. "Your "religious rights" do not entitle you to any special privileges. that also applies to freedom of expression: say whatever you want but dont be surprised if you get punched in the face." ****I agreed with you up until "punched in the face". Say what you want, and don't be surprised at what others say back at you, but I draw the line at violating a person's body safety or property. Perhaps you were being allegorical. " I suggest you read about metzitzah b'peh." ****Ok, I looked it up. This is practiced by a minority of Jews, which are a minority of people. So maybe 0.001% of the world. I'm not saying I'm cool with it but it's hardly a widespread practice. "about the abortion you may like it or not that does not matter. If abortion is outlawed..." ****I'll stop you right there. Read what I wrote again. I don't like it but I don't have to. I'm for it being legal even though I myself don't like it. ****I'm mostly with you here in terms of legal abortion, even though I personally don't like it. I do believe that our current legal framework legalizing it is very bad and needs to be replaced somehow. I say it again: healthcare is a right, not privilege in this country. ****You can say it 8,231 times and that doesn't change anything. Perhaps you can cite a law or constitutional provision that provides this? And don't say "Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness." Laaaame. "Should a scientist with 15 years of experience and one with 5 years have to be paid exactly the same" -not equal work..one worked for 15 years one worked for 5 years. If two scientists both with 15 years of experience and both equally qualified should have the same pay regardless of gender or race or whatever. ****It very well could be equal work. I specified that they were hired for the same exact position. I didn't mention anything about race or gender. What if one is clearly better than the other? What if one has an esteemed publication and research record and the other is meh? "government can not interfere with speech and expression. People can. You can stay in the subway and preach hate, personally will ignore you, some will punch you in the face. " ****I think we covered this under religious stuff.
Who Are You Politically, and Why
FORUMS > General Discussions > Politics > Who Are You Politically, and Why       04-25-2017 15:33 PM
Part 2 of 2. 6) Banks and corporations must be held accountable and the consumers must be protected with law. ****In spirit I want agree with you, but your statement is too vague for me to know exactly what I'd be agreeing to. 7) Equal pay for equal work. ****This is a major problem in practice. Should two different starting pitchers for the same baseball team have to be paid exactly the same? Should a scientist with 15 years of experience and one with 5 years have to be paid exactly the same (if they have identical positions at the same company)? More discussion another time. 8) Anti- war in all forms. Military complex should have 50% cut an money put in Healthcare. ****I want less war too whenever possibly avoidable. The 2nd half of your statement is just a shoot-from-the-hip word-barf. 9) Pro-emigration, pro-vetting, anti-wall (if you illegal crossing are down 60% you dont need wall). ****I think you mean immigration. I want good control of immigration but I'm fairly relaxed about how many people we allow in and from where. I do get bent out of shape about allowing criminals in. I don't know if a wall will help or not (about 1/3 of the border is already walled off). 10) Pro-freedom of speech and pro-freedom of expression unless your message is spreading racism , homophobia and hate then you dont get to speak. Bullies and trolls do not get a free pass. ****You'll need a constitutional amendment to get the second part of your statement done. TROLLS don't get a free pass? You want to silence TROLLS with the police power of government? Nah sorry - our existing free speech framework is pretty cool. Yes, it means you get to be hateful, which I don't like, but you have to take the good with the bad.
Who Are You Politically, and Why
FORUMS > General Discussions > Politics > Who Are You Politically, and Why       04-25-2017 15:32 PM
For shits and giggles I decided to tack my opinion onto each of your points. I put my comments with **** in front of them to make it more obvious. 1) I am firm and would say militant anti-theist (etc....) ****I'd avoid using the word "militant". "Strident", maybe. I largely am with you here. (private businesses however should have the freedom to choose their clientele). **** Well that's interesting, and seemingly out of step with what I believe are your previous statements condemning Republican laws allowing "religious freedom" in support of businesses who do not wish to bake gay wedding cakes, for instance. I'm mostly all about businesses being able to choose their clientele, but then run into issues when it comes to "No blacks". If female genital mutilation is illegal why is the circumcision legal (cutting babie's penis skin and sucking it afterwards that has spread herpes in newborn)? ****one can at least make the argument that male circumcision is not detrimental (and is potentially marginally beneficial). As for sucking the penis afterwards - WHAT? 2) Abortion is constitutional right of every woman to choose, and its between her and her doctor...not you..not government's job to mandate useless medical procedures. ****I'm mostly with you here in terms of legal abortion, even though I personally don't like it. I do believe that our current legal framework legalizing it is very bad and needs to be replaced somehow. 3) Healthcare is a right not privilege. we can argue how to achieve this. ****There is no right to healthcare under American law, and I've never seen anyone make a reasonable argument that there is. I wouldn't call it a privilege either. 4) Im and Scientist: global warming is an established fact (if you think its not bring on your research to prove the contrary). I'm pro renewable energy. coal oil , nuclear and gas are obsolete. Vaccines should be mandate with a law. ****I'm completely confused about your sciencey-ness, but I don't really have a reason to doubt you. I'm pretty sure it has nothing to do with global warming though. I'm not skeptical as to the notion of human impact on climate change, the problem as I see it is that the most extreme alarmists have the floor. The details of such an argument can be had elsewhere. ****re: coal oil , nuclear and gas are obsolete. Completely disagree with you here. To the point where I mock your statement and say it's short-sighted and...well, just dumb. ****re: Vaccines. This is an area where I break from my libertarianism, mostly. I'd be willing to mandate some vaccines, especially those with proven track records and for diseases targeted for elimination, such as mumps/measles etc. 5) Atni-War on drugs. The best way to fight drugs is true education. **** I don't have a well-formed opinion here. I see both sides of the argument. Part 2 to come...
Obituaries
FORUMS > General Discussions > Open Forum > Obituaries       04-25-2017 14:56 PM
re: Aaron Hernandez It is now being reported that toxicology found K2 (aka "Spice", aka "synthethic cannabis"). No details yet on how much. I despise the name "synthetic cannabis". Synthetic cannabinoids, OK.
Happy Thoughts and Bitchfest
FORUMS > General Discussions > Open Forum > Happy Thoughts and Bitchfest       04-25-2017 14:39 PM
"I'm blessed with a great head" Great head is always a blessing.
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