First of all, sorry that your first encounter had gone unsuccessful. First meetings are very difficult. We have meet couples that we have ended up being friends w/ benefits and not the score count. We have even meet up with other couples through them that have become good friends too. And, we have tried to set up w/ couples that we felt after several emails left us very unsure about one of them. We never did meet. We like to meet for the first time in a public place so there is the opportunity to get to know each other. We do like to be with people that we have common interests so it isn't the score and run. It does take time and it will be worth it when the right couple is found.

well we've had good luck on this site for the most part... however yes there are lots of pic collectors and other types of game playing on here... we live in a modern world unfortunately its like they become embarrassed and your time isn't valuable ... we are open minded but its frustrating to make a date and get stood up... we usually chat online and than try to chat on the phone ... than we try and set up a dinner or drink date in neutral territory ... however do what you feel comfortable with