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Ready,

You cheat on your wife. You are one that gets into the lifestyle because your marriage is broken. I was in a sexless marriage myself. I didn't get involved in the lifestyle I hired a divorce lawyer.

You sir are the reason single men have such a hard time in the lifestyle.

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Good idea PNL...maybe a conference call with Mrs. Destin, you and a couple more...lol

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Ready,

Who the hell are you to call me DEAR. You are a male chauvinist pig. Do you think you are superior to me? If I saw you in person I would slap you across your face.

I will admit I may be wrong in claiming that you changed your profile. Please do not take that as an apology, because I would never apologize to a male chauvinist. It still does not change the FACT that you cheat on your wife.(Yes, that is a FACT) And, I also stand by the rest of my posts from earlier. Why don't you give me your wife's phone number, so her and I could chat.

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A cheater is a cheater no matter what...other cheating wifes may prefer other cheating husbands...lol They certainly are not swingers.

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OK PNL ... I am very sorry that my original posting in this thread which was a general statement about those engaging in what I and others consider to be selective ethics has turned personal ...

... PERSONAL because you my dear have claimed to have researched 'facts' in my profile that prove me to be a LIAR and I can not let that stand. At first when I saw this last post I was willing to give you the benefit of the doubt and think you may have me confused with someone else's profile you have been attacking ... then it dawned on me that given we are not geographically close, odds are you would not have looked at a single male's profile (mine) until today when I made this post. Therefore you accused me of making changes in the "we" status today ... that my dear makes you the LIAR here ... I have never made any such changes today or ever AND since about my 2nd week on this site the 4th paragraph of my profile has remained the same, which makes it overly clear that I am here "married playing single" ... regardless of what you or anyone else thinks of me and my personal status ... one thing is for sure and that is I have never misrepresented myself or attempted to come off as a couple or a "single" unmarried male.

I won't bother taking up space responding to the rest of your comments and do not intend lower myself to your level any further ... unless of course you or someone else make personal false claims against me that require a factual response.

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Ready, Now you claim your wife GENERALLY knows that you cheat on her. She either knows or doesn't know. Does she know that you come on SLS and actively seek women and couples for play when you are away in DC?

You claim that you did not misrepresent yourself in what was written in your profile. Well, I notice that you changed your profile a bit. You were using the word WE very often in your profile before you changed it. AS FAR AS I AM CONCERNED,"WE" means you and someone else, usually your wife.

As far as your previous experience with a married couple liking the fact that you are married. Good for them. It doesn't mean everyone shares the same opinion. Just like I am sure not everyone shares my opinion.

Last but not least, CERTS. You speak of couples not having certs. You are NOT a couple, but a single cheating male. We have deleted about 2 dozen certs from SLS. Our choice. Couples and single females OBVIOUSLY have an easier time then single males. If so many people are looking for certs, especially from single males, it would make sense that you would WANT TO BE CERTIFIED. Privacy issues and not "kissing and telling" issues are bullshit excuses for single males who CANNOT get certified. Every single male that we have been with has BEGGED us to certify them. Do you know why they BEGGED to be certified. Because A CERT FROM A REAL COUPLE BRINGS LEGITIMACY TO THEM, SO THEY CAN REACH OUT TO OTHER COUPLES WITH THE CONFIDENCE THAT THEY ARE NOT FAKES.

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To the OP, your tag line(it all about pussy) tells us you don't have a clue and we would not want to meet you with or without your wife. We prefer a bit of class and respect for the ladies.

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Codedout,

The DON'T ASK, DON'T TELL statement was not meant for you. I was referring to a post by READYTOPLAY further down in the forum. As far as CERTS go, they sometimes can be deceiving also. But in the time that we have been on SLS, we have come to use a combination of certs, I M, e-mail, and phone conversation to weed out the phonies. And we have become pretty good at it. One question for you. Part of the way down in your profile, you say that you and your wife NEVER play together. Why not just have 2 different profiles? Wouldn't this eliminate some of your problems of being accused as a cheater?

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Since I was the one to write about the "don't ask don't tell policy" I feel the need to clear what may be a misunderstanding about me in what PNL wrote and lumped me in a group I don't belong in. First, the "don't ask ..." means in my case that my wife does in fact know generally what I am doing but chooses not to know the details of who, what and where ... Second, I have never misrepresented myself here or on any other site as to my status and never tried to come off as a couple ... Third, I did mention that the swinging couple who's wife I spent years with knew and preferred I was married and was well aware of what my wife did and didn't know. Now as to whether you have Certs or not ... there are some that prefer not to kiss and tell and don't want everyone else to know who they have been with ... and that is a privacy issue ... not having Certs does not in and of itself make you a fake. There are plenty of couples that have been on here for a long time without Certs ... does that make them fakes? ... or is this yet another double standard that only applies to married men ... as we know ... married women are not treated with the same stigma on most of these sites.

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Codeout, I speak in terms of cheating and swinging.

Swinging is when your significant other is involved and well aware of what is going on. Cheating is when you pose on here as a couple, play without the significant other, clearly state that you and your wife have a DON'T ASK, DON'T TELL policy, and your significant other has NO IDEA what you are doing. It is not only cheating on your significant other, it is deceiving to the couple you are playing with. It is wrong, We as a couple are not in the business of breaking up other's marriages. We just feel that there are enough types of people here that we do not need the bullshit of dealing with someone who COULD POSSIBLY be a cheating spouse. Basically, if you are playing alone, your profile should state that. Posing as a couple to play alone is down right deceiving. This is why we like to see CERTS. We can usually weed out the cheaters that way. After playing the game here for more than 2 and 1/2 years, we can weed out the real from the fakes. There is another post on here about the validation of CERTS. We are a true believer in certs. I am going to generalize here, but, Usually, not always, if there is a guy/fake couple on here without certs, and he is a member for more than 6 months, chances are pretty good he is a fake. I am sure there are plenty of REAL people that fit the generalization I just wrote, but all of that gets worked out when the REAL talking starts. Between CERTS, I Ms, MAIL, And finally phone verification, we are able to weed out the cheaters.

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