115
Working in a man's world : Swingers Discussion 219455105
Busy Swingers Forum - everything you always wanted to know about swingers.
SwingLifeStyle Swingers Personal Ads. | SwingLifeStyle Swingers Clubs

Busy Swingers Forum

Everything you always wanted to know about swingers.

Create A Free Account

HELP
FORUMSGeneral DiscussionsWomen TalkWorking in a man's world
TOPIC: Working in a man's world
GoTo Page: 1 2
Start   5 to 12 of 12 
User Details are only visible to members.
Its not at all unfortunately. What really makes me sad is how women do not support each other. Its one thing for a man to treat me crazy or make references to me sexually. I am ready for that shit. But when women turn against women...that shit hurts.


Username hidden
(23992 posts)
User Details are only visible to members.
The misses has about 30 engineers working for her and she continues to move up the ladder. But it is very tough for her in a male dominated industry, lot's of road blocks. She tends to move up when she has a mentor who respects her work, knowledge and gumption. It's not easy for woman engineers.

Painesville OH
Username hidden
(164 posts)
User Details are only visible to members.
For me, the worst place ever was the military. Not only did I have to put up with NCOs and fellow soldiers making comments while we did PT (especially stretching)...but the fact that they hated the idea that women were there in the first place. Army wives at that time were still very much "traditional wives", as in they stayed home and raised the children and daddy went to work. And that is very noble. But alot of the men I worked with thought that ALL women were supposed to be at home raising the children, and should not be in the military. I was told this directly by a few. When I was promoted at Fort Detrick, Md. one guy was nothing short of infuriated over the idea that he, a soldier, would have to answer to a female soldier. This is why still to this day, in the office and usually everywhere...I do everything twice better than I am asked to. If I am to be there at 8, I am there at 7:30. You always feel as a woman this pressure to do everything to the extreme, just to show you "belong".


Username hidden
(23992 posts)
User Details are only visible to members.
I don't know if it will ever change. I used to think that when the good old boys were gone, everything would change, but unfortunately the good old boy are raising their boys to be new good old boys. I saw this very clearly when I gave a talk to a Society of Women Engineers session a couple years back that was combined with a meeting of the Society of Mechanical Engineers. Nothing wrong with Mechanical Engineers, but the group took me to dinner, and I couldn't believe the anti-women vitriol being spewed by these boys.

At the moment I have 3 guys reporting to me and they are great, we all work together well, so I feel pretty lucky. I have had at times very sexist people working for me; it was not pleasant. Oh well!

Gibsonia PA
Username hidden
(6923 posts)
User Details are only visible to members.
I am coming in at the end of this conversation, but I wanted to tell you that I agree so much with this, and the "good ole boy" system women often work under. It is so frustrating. I have found that not only is a woman at a disadvantage, but women that physically are a certain way are in a unique position as well. When a woman is a girlie girl it is oftentimes assumed that she slept her way into her position. And men tend to have a hard time working under women....and then throw into the mix the fact that an assertive man is called in charge and in control, where an assertive woman is called a bitch and a diva. Ugh, it is so frustrating.


Username hidden
(23992 posts)
User Details are only visible to members.
Thanks wanna and livewire! Gosh - you are so right. Been soul searching to see if this whole engineering thing is right for me - been in this business for 20 years. When I'm relaxed and comfortable with people, I'm confident and can showcase my expertise. I just don't do well with aggressive people who have to cut down others to make themselves look better. Unfortunately, I got promoted to corporate management. I don't care about getting credit for things - in fact - I prefer that everyone on my team share the victory instead of just one person.

The biggest mistake that I made has been truly believing in the corporate leadership model - it talks about truth, credibility, adult behavior and ethics. I'm learning that this was only lip service from company leaders. It's been a disappointing day - just found out that a plant manager who is greatly respected by his employees, runs an outstanding profitable operation and I personally admire the way he does his work was forced into retirement one year early (after 45 years of service to the company - he started out at 19 years of age sweeping the floor). Your advice just reinforces that I need to get out of this company before it saps whatever remaining sense of worth I have. I know the business culture is moving towards lean and mean but there has to some place for someone like me - an easygoing nerd who would rather tinker than interface with humans. Thanks for your advice.

Albany OR
Username hidden
(36 posts)
User Details are only visible to members.
I hear ya! I work in a male-dominated field and it's no fun some days. We stand up for ourselves and get called a bitch.

You're not alone! Hang in there, girl! Get that bonus and then get the h*ll outta there. :)

Lahaina HI
Username hidden
(594 posts)
User Details are only visible to members.
Just need to vent - come join this party if you want.

Why is it that when you work your ass off to get a BS and MS in engineering, work your ass off in the industry staying up late nights, miss vacations, miss your kid's big events, take on the jobs no one wants, manage people by treating them like humans and not talking down to them, manage with a softer touch rather than an iron fist, and are considered by the peers you see every day as well respected and easy to get along with..... why is it that your long distance boss exhibits disdain for you from day one, you are told to start looking for another job and finally told you don't have the intestinal fortitude to do this job? He manages through fear and intimidation. No one stands up to him because they get shot down or put on a shit list. This guy seems to hate women working for him - a highly qualified female candidate was well received by plant management, did one final phone interview with him and withdrew her interest in the position.

I'm just trying to hang on for another 3 weeks so I can collect my bonus (which I worked damn hard for). I have an opportunity to partner up with someone who wants me to do the engineering work while she does the marketing. It's a good fit because I suck at sales but am good with numbers. Thanks for letting me vent.

Albany OR
Username hidden
(36 posts)
GoTo Page: 1 2
Start   5 to 12 of 12 
TOPIC: Working in a man's world