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Yeah, if you need to be hammered to do this, then I think a new hobby is in order. We don't drink heavy if we know there is a decent chance that we'll be playing. Almost every dramatic event we've experienced, or have seen, has been the result of poor communication most likely resulting from way too much drinking. It seems like a lot of people (especially women) need to be completely numb to play with others. It's despicable when we've heard husbands say something like, "We just need to get my wife a bit tipsier and then she'll be ready." WTF?!? I don't know about other guys, but it's a turn off for me if a girl needs to be shit faced to have sex with me. It's these same people who seem to use the lifestyle to replace something that is missing in their relationship. Why people need to start at 3am and completely hammered is beyond me.

We'd prefer to play completely sober on a Saturday afternoon, break for dinner, and resume for desert!

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I have been going to the clubs forever vanilla and lifestyle . Did you ever notice when people get sloppy drunk they are guided by the little devil on their shoulder and swear the next morning they can't remember. I thought the vanilla ones were fun to watch but the lifestyle ones are funner! men you expected but the women are a real treat.I swear half of them are doing it to please the partner and the booze makes it that much easier to get through.One of the many reasons I have become more selective with the couples I play with. Quality over quantity counts

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Sidney, I must say, your a better man then I. If this had happen to anyone i knew it would have when much futher then that. I take my hat off to yo and your wife. Hope you have better experience in the future.

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I am going to address false/misleading accusations and false statements made by “Rick’s” reply post on this forum. “Rick” took advantage of a new person to “the lifestyle” not to mention a new person to his club. 1) When my wife and I first entered the “club” we provided our website names from SLS because we wanted to remain private. However, within thirty seconds of entering the club and while still standing at the front door we were introduced to “Rick”, the owner of the club. “Rick” requested legal identification. Without hesitation we complied with his request and provided our legal names with proof of identity, i.e. driver’s licenses. Then, without hesitation, “Rick” allowed us to become “paid” members of the club. 2) We were NOT intoxicated. If we had been intoxicated then “Rick’s” statement “I stopped the interview and asked if you were ok with being at the club as you were intoxicated …..so we proceeded to do the interview…” only further indicates that if “Rick” felt we were intoxicated then he should not have offered a membership to us. “Rick’s” clear admission of HIS interpretation of our state of minds clearly voids any legal document and positively shows his intent of further predatory actions. Besides, I’m sure other paying club members would not have appreciated “Rick” allowing intoxicated strangers into a club which is suppose to provide a membership fee for PROTECTION. 3) “Rick’s” actions of touching my wife and attempting to kiss my wife without her permission were WRONG. At no time did “Rick” ever approach us as a couple nor did “Rick” ever ask for my consent for his advances. Regardless of where “Rick’s” actions occurred in the club he acted inappropriately. “Rick’s” club is a BYOB so my wife had to go behind “the bar” to get our drinks which we provided. “Rick’s” employee told us “the bar” was where the “only working cooler” was located to keep our drinks cold. 4) I NEVER yelled at my wife nor did I ever show her disrespect. “Rick” was the person who brought her “to the point of tears.” One of the club members DID witness “Rick’s” actions and apologized for “Rick’s” actions. Unfortunately, the club member was not an employee therefore we could not ask that the owner/perpetrator be REMOVED. 5) My wife and I realized that this club was not being run by a professional management team or a professional manager/owner. We had no recourse of action but to immediately leave after “Rick’s” inappropriate actions for our own protection. As we left the front door, in a calm and respectful tone of voice I told the “door person” (who was “Rick’s” wife) that “I did not appreciate her husband’s unwarranted actions against my wife and his actions did not give a good representation of this club to first time members and we would most certainly not be returning.” “Rick’s” wife was probably “near to the point of tears” due to “Rick’s” inappropriate actions and the realization that “Rick” had not only placed the club in a negative light but had also disrespected her and “Rick” as a couple.

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They get evicted. I also hate males that do not respect the close door policy at the club. They come busting in asking to play or they hang around the bed if there is no door waiting to move in.I fixed my hotel party problem. I rent my own room.

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Lately we come across far too "friendly " women . If it is unacceptable for a man to fondle you without invitation the same must be true of women. Married or Single doesn't seem to matter...somehow they get it in their heads either of us should somehow be flattered by their groping us. It is much more difficult to stop a women from behaving like than a man. I've had women on the dance floor who think it is soo cute to pull my dress up or my top down. Complete strangers who are suddenly trying to shove their tongues down my husbands throat. One woman harassed me all night , everytime she past behind me she was feeling me up. To say anything to her is to risk offending her and the next thing you know we get a reputation of being "mean" . Strangly I have no problem handling men in this situation but a women you have to be so much more careful so she doesn't go crying to everyone how unfriendly you are or how you treated her unkindly. In my experience the men are far more respectful than the women when it comes to "the right" to grope strangers. What's a girl to do ???? Neither of us appreciate gropes by strangers male or female.....unless of course we've given you that come hither look lol!!!! Mrs Sav

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well now lets get to the truth of the matter.. whenyou came to the club for your orientation...you used fake names to try and gain entrance ...we got you thru that the i stopped the interview and asked if you were ok with being at the club as you were intoxicated.....you slowly said you were ok..so we processed to do the interview...

cheap suits....i do not and many people who know me are familiar with the manner in which i dress.....i do not wear cheap clothes cheeseball.....hmm..your opinion..but certainly it is not necessary to call names dark club.......there are BOH rules as to how light certain areas need to be ..dark.....hmmmmm you mean the dance floor....we have a very expensive light and sound system....that was installed by a professional company..who has over 30 years in the night club business

mumbling words ....all clubs have an agreement that must be signed to obtain membership...legal..yes in deed...required ...100%..at all clubs

office size .....im glad you have such a huge closet..we all do....office size .. well i did not design the building but it is what it is ..we have always had plenty of room for an interview

someone grabbing your ass.......well that may have been but you should have told some one about it ..like the person who did it ... this happened when you were behind the bar .....and there were quite a few people to witness any thing that happened..but no one said a word the part about me shoving my tounge down your throat it did not go there .....and again there were many people around witness it again when you were behind the bar there seemed to be no problem till your husband yelled at you to the point of tears...... then when he pulled you out of the club he processed to yell at the door person ( who was my wife )....and other witnesses....and bringing her to the near point of tears... I wonder if you had much communication between the two of you about coming to a club...could it have been that you crossed a line ?...

as being new you have no point of reference on how a club should look, or what to expect...or any thing to compare it to..i assure Jus 4 Now is a very professionally run club..with 11 years in operation and over 8300 members we try to satisfy a great majority of people..and most of them are and im sorry the experience for what ever reason did not work out

Im not sure why the bad publicity is all pointed at me and the club....

there is 2 sides to each story....and its best to be truthful

rick jus 4 now / club utopia

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@sydney: I hope you and your husband made a statement by leaving immediately. I'm with the girls here. He's a slug ad probably started the club because he felt it gave him license to assault women.

At the club we attend most frequently, my wife has been touched and had her bottom groped once each. No big deal. She just let's him know he can look but not touch.

There are also the lurkers and these are unescorted males. As soon as I take a bathroom break, they're moving in for the kill. She quickly moves away and engages a friend in conversation until I return. Fortunately, the club watches out for these guys and they're uninvited back.

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That totally sucks!

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Panama City Beach FL
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Yeah, I would never return to that place. He is a fool. Obviously he believes that the law regarding sexual assault do not go past the door of his club. With his arrogance and narcissistic attitude, he will continue...and one day he is going to grab the wrong woman and all hell will break loose. What a creap. Again, sorry about that. That is complete bullshit.


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