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As a (sadly still) single man, I can reply to this with some experience. I started out out with the mindset of YES! easy sex! But after I had gotten to know some of the people I realized it was more about having friends. Granted they were friends that had expanded their sexual horizons to include many things the moral majority scream about, but they were friends. After getting comfortable and learning more about each other, I started getting invites to "parties" and learned more about the lifestyle. Many of the parties were for MMF which I politely turned down. I have always been interested in B&D and want to learn more about that. In my case the D is more an interest in domination than discipline. There are other things I would like to learn about but will not discuss in here, at this time. So yes, many single guys are looking for an easy, and quick lay. Those of us that are interested in more, stick around and hopefully will get to participate in something that will open a new world for them.

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I've got 30 years of swinging under my belt too. Singles have ALWAYS been included and welcumed.

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Battle? Hmmm, Perhaps clarify would be a better term. Jewel seems to be having fun and we on the opposite coast have enjoyed this very much. I think it's much more an example of online interpretation, how the same written words can have a very different feel to different people. And how persisitent attempts to clarify what was said can help to get around the differring intrepretations. Even with persistent attempts to clarify there remains different flavors of feeling from those words. I'm forever fascinated by the subtle twists and turns meaning can have.

The history of what we call swinging or the lifestyle today is far longer than is often given credit. It didn't start twenty or forty or a hundred years ago. It has been going on since humans began. It's prevalence in civilized societies has waxed and waned, but play parties and exchanging partners certainly didn't begin with the Romans.

My own experience with "swinging" goes back over thirty years. Those were the days of swinging magazines. Even at that time swinging in the modern sense had a history older than I was. Bi-ness was advertised in my early days of playing and there were single men and women then too, bi and straight. I met a couple with my then wife who were both bi and was introduced to actual bi play rather than just the idea of it.

So I have to say that singles have been a part of it since my earliest experiences, and while couples predominated, singles were an integral part.

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I’m gonna have to agree with Jewel on this one, I don’t think she use that analogy to put Bi-Men down, after all she used it as a bi-female and a dog, not a male with a dog. It’s her prerogative to not want to see two men together, and to say it, for the same reason any strait person may not like watching any people of the same sex together, be it two women or two men.

All she said was it’s not her cup of tea, I’m fine with that, for the same reason some may not want to be with a heavy man or women, or with another person of another nationality.

Me personally, I’ve never had anything against anyone who’s preferences were not the same as mine. Just when they belittle another person for having a different preference.

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LOL! Good luck with that, DandJ... one can always hope. It's worth a try from time to time, anyways. Good thoughts for 2008.

Re the OP: "swinging" has traditionally referred to couples who swap partners. By this way of speaking, a couple including singles in their sex lives are not "swinging" per se. Nor is a single person playing with another single swinging. "The lifestyle" is a broader idea, inclusive of singles and couples.

More recently, some people are using "swinging" to refer to an open, no-strings approach to having sex with like-minded partners, inclusive of couples and singles. This is more useful. It makes sense to think of "swinging" as an alternate to the status quo of sexual relations within the bounds of monogamous marriage. (Or serial monogamy.) Swingers can and do have committed relationships, AND nonetheless are open to sex with other like-minded people. Swingers can also be singles, who nonetheless have no-commitment sex with others, married and single. It does not imply they are unsuccessful finding a life partner. After being in the lifestyle for a while, a single can find another of the opposite sex to play with and attend swing gatherings.

If someone has been in the lifestyle for a long time and cannot secure a play partner, it might be a red flag, or it might be they just don't care to play that way. There are plenty of women who play alone, but they sure could have a partner if they wanted one. Same is true for guys.

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Don't know and don't care... to me it was simply a comparison.

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Scotty, I suppose the comparison in interest levels between sex with a human and sex with a dog may have just popped into Jewel's head, but don't you suppose it may have been chosen for it's dramatic punch?

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"I have seen no disrespect for bi-males from jewel in this thread or any other."

I agree with this and I also thoroughly enjoy reading your posts Jewel.

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DANDJ,

I read the post from jewel. It was a simple comparison. Sorry you can't see that. I think after reading it it was very clear. She wasn't comparing bimale sex to sex with a greyhound. She was saying that she had equal interest in both... NONE. again it's a comparison. maybe you're just hyper-sensative on the issue.

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I welcome with smiles and happiness your emphatic post that you do respect bi males as people. The reason I questioned your respect has nothing to do with your sexual preferences. I attempted to make that very clear in my last post.

My feelings were based on the words of your post in answer to LaneHenry's some time back, where you talked about the history of swinging and its attitude toward bi males. They were reinforced by your comparison of your lack of desire for sex with a bi male with your lack of desire for sex with a dog. From your words and that comparison I received the feeling you lacked respect for bi males. Your desires, your sexual preferences never entered into my arguments other than to remark on the fact that you shared bi ness with bi males.

May I ask what to you is the difference between sex with a straight male and a bi male that you would compare the latter to sex with an animal?

You've repeatedly chided me for wishing to change your sexual attraction to bi males. Would you please stop doing so? I really have no personal interest in your sexual preferences and no wish at all to change them. I am interested in the points of our discussion and it has been a very informative and respectful one except for that one misunderstanding. Obviously you've received an impression I have not intended, so I hope I am clear enough now.

In your last post you explicitly stated you do respect bi males. I accept that wholeheartedly and with warmth. It has been a pleasure to discuss our feelings and thoughts on this matter in a spirit of respect. May it continue so.

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