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Has absolutely nothing to do with being fat, lazy, pierced and tatted up people of any combination. People are fucking nuts. Hot guy #1, wanted to train me to be his cum slut. Take me to a NYC bar in very "slutty" clothes and send me back to a hotel with whatever random dude of his choosing. Alone. So he can get off on whatever story I come back with. Or loan me out to groups of guys for whatever. Nope. #2, planning our retirement on 1st date. #3, completely wigged out on me over the phone during circumstances I couldn't control(not apologizing for missing a date because a person in front of me is bleeding out from an accident). #several, a bunch of lies. #a few, great on paper but just never worked out due to schedule. #a few, just zero chemistry. There are some pretty hot people out there that are bat shit crazy. "Don't put your dick in crazy" there is no way I'm getting naked with crazy. Also, just because a dude has 5% body fat does not mean that I'll find the rest of him attractive? Excessive body hair? Nope. Can't hold a conversation Nope. Has a much different personality than me? Nope. Some people have more standards than body fat percentage.

Harrisburg PA
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swinging is both social and sexual, sometimes it is a bit to social for us, it spoils the very essence of swinging....

Matamoras PA
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True people are now all fat as cows and disgusting, that has ruined swinging as much as single men. I so wish for the old days when everyone took care of the bodies. When no single men where allowed.

This was the days when you had to good old fuckfests. No one was fat, everyone has nice bodies..not perfect but with exercise. It was so much fun.

Now people are overweight and believe that does not matter, yet they shave their bodies and put on tattoos and jewelry everywhere thinking that looks good so they dont have to exercise and eat healthy. Clubs provide all the single men the fat women could want so they get laid one way or another.

Jut like everything else today, be materiel and lazy. its what you put on your body that makes you sexy not how fit your body is.

Las Vegas NV
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I don't know any clubs in the greater area that allow a large portion of single men. It's usually 5 couples/SF per 1 single guy. Been like that for years. One doesn't allow single men on Saturdays. One club, single men have to be sponsored just to get a membership. You're by no means tripping over single men, who typically pay a much higher cost just to get in the door. Only to be read the riot act on how to behave. I've honestly haven't come across many bad single men. Maybe 3 in about *8* years. It's not the "wanna-bees" and fakes who've shifted the swinging culture to the lifestyle. It's just people are no longer willing to just close their eyes, randomly point and go fuck that person. Yes, most would love to hook up with other people. They just have standards. If I go to a swingers club a house party, whatever, I'm not going to spread my legs just 'cuz swinging. Nope. If some couple or sm comes in that creeps me out, I'm not having sex and most people agree. Just because they don't hook up doesn't mean they're not into. Just means they didn't meet anyone worth their time.

Harrisburg PA
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The Red Rooster used to have a couples only evening once a week where everyone had to get naked as soon as they got inside. this was years ago before the commercialization of swinging, now there are so many single men at the rooster that no one gets naked at all.

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We haven't been to any clubs in the last couple years. Most of the clubs in the North East use to alternate weekends "couples only". Then, as Ncal says swinging became "commercial" (very good term to capture it). It use to be that there were very few singles, swinging was a "couples" activity, I mean if you are single you don't have a spouse to share. With the expansion of the internet, the wanna-bees and singles came out of the wood work, and the club owners could not turn down the revenue. The normally very wild and discreet clubs, became a boring disappointment for people that really like to hook-up. Many of the clubs became 50% single guys that heard "it was a great place for singles to get a quick piece of ass" -- which the clubs never were. In our opinion the Internet greatly expanded the LS and ruined it at the same time.

Hanover MD
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Mo you have never been to a swing party. Its 90% sexual and 10% social. For the old days before swinging became commercial and single men where allowed into clubs.

Las Vegas NV
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Agree with all below, actually.

While the sexual comonent may very well be why most or all of us are here, there clearly is a strong social component. I would find it dubious if one said that it was only social, however. I am a very social person, which clearly is part of the building of trust and chemistry. So I suppose the sexual component is the cotton fiber, while the Interwoven polyester is the social.

So basically, then, the LS is a heather (65% cotton/35% polyester) blend t-shirt, with which one could clean up after, wash, and reuse.

P.S. Is that oxford comma inaesthetic? I can't decide.

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Swinging is sexual Lifestyle is social

Las Vegas NV
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For me, can't and won't speak for anyone else, it's various points along the Social -Sexual line. Sometimes, it's the excitement of the anonymity, a three email/text exchange followed by a pre-festivities drink in the hotel bar. Other times, it's spending the weekend in and out of the bedroom with an out of town visitor, playing tourist in your own city...and then, there are the..."we have an extra ticket to the Saints game or Brian Setzer Christmas Orchestra, wanna join us?" evenings... And everything in between.

There are 100's if ways to cook a potato and none of them are wrong.

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