Friendship in the LS are we barking up the wrong tree: Swingers Discussion 1853721011

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Friendship in the LS are we barking up the wrong tree: Swingers Discussion 1853721011

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TOPIC: Friendship in the L-S are we barking up the wrong tree

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User Details are only visible to members.	Ok 2-69er's; I just have to post on this... You are looking for a deep friendship first then just maybe, play time. That is fine, that is how you are wired as you say in your profile. And no doubt you'll find some folks that will accept your approach with the ultimate landing be at soft-swap. And you have a right to be who and what you are. Now the other side of the coin... swinging even when it's 69ing with each other's wife is just borrowing, with permission and supervision. Many couples don't want to get super close. They want a bit of a distance. They don't want to live with you or fall in love with you. Many folks who are seasoned swingers will tell you that there has to be a distance. That is part of what makes it safe emotionally. And with you being soft-swap (like we are) that limits the field already. By the same token, yes, you want to know people well enough to feel safe and comfortable. So you don't just look at a couple at a party and go... 'Nice wife, wanna fuck?' But even the courtship you suggest doesn't tell you that much. The other guy could be a closet gay, molester, ex-felon who is not so ex. Do you really think you can tell? We have two couples on here who we consider friends. In both cases, we played on the first night. The friendship developed from that point on. Both me and Mrs. JM felt safe with them from the start, and since it all worked out well with no drama, the friendship thing is really cool. With whom else can you talk about swinging other than the folks whose parts have been in your mouths! So, 2-for-69, I suggest that you may want to consider a slight re-evaluation of how close you must be before playing. But... it's your call. Be true to yourselves and carefull with any rule changes. BTW, come to Greenville SC some time and we'd love to go out to dinner with you... no promises, no expectations.
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User Details are only visible to members.	Thanks Vx2, but living near a major metropolitan city we really don't think (location) is much of an issue. We love our vanilla friends but really enjoy folks we can truly be our "normal" (sexual) selves around. Everyone wants to be excepted for who they are... after all isn't that why most of us are here?? Maybe it's just the frustration talking but we're tired of being stood up, blown off, accused of being too this or not enough that and ironically that's just by the folks that never met us! Doesn't anyone take the time (I'm not talking "Hey your wife is hot, let's meet?") to get to know anyone???
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User Details are only visible to members.	We have found that folks in the lifestyle are some of the most intelligent and interesting people we've ever met. Some we have a few things in common, others a lot. But when it comes to playing we have to (1) know, (2) trust and (3) respect the folks we're being intimate with (sorry, that's just the way we're "wired"). We've only met a about 3 couples that we can really call friends (go out for non-lifestyle activities, welcome in each other's home, feel comfortable around our vanilla friends, etc.) While we have no problem meeting folks and making friends no matter what their preference or experience level is, we let it be know from the beginning we are soft-swap and if they can't respect our boundaries then they can't respect us. It's just been frustrating as the folks who say "Wow, you sound like us" or "We'd love to get to know you" won't waste any longer than a week before they lose interest. So we're curious to know if anyone else feels this way, has had similar experiences or are we wasting our time?
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