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User Details are only visible to members.	I've watched the level of safer play when couples play. There are tons of less than safer interactions. Everything from where has your hand been? Oh, in the other chick...to moving mouth from one person to the next. Also not washing the front of the males body before moving with condom to the next lady. Few folks are as tuned into pathogen transfer as I am. The reality is many, "safer", swingers are not that safe at all. The reality is that most are not safe enough for me. That said to use the word murder...makes me wonder why folks would even be in the lifestyle. Mischief, mark me as safer Security is mostly superstition. It does not exist in nature, nor do the children of men as a whole experience it. Avoiding danger is no safer in the long run than outright exposure. Life is either a daring adventure or nothing. Helen Keller
Glen Burnie MD			Username hidden (2785 post)

User Details are only visible to members.	Where did anyone get the idea we don't inform EVERY single contact that we have played bareback...and guess how many rejections we have had from this disclosure...anyone? NONE, NOT ONE. I totally agree that anything, I repeat, anything less than total disclosure is reprehensible BEYOND RECOMPENSE. But attempted murder???? Who the HELL is talking about an HIV positive individual? We were hypothesizing the ethics of not informing some one all of your sex practices. If you are HIV positive, then you have NO moral choice in our paltry opinion than to be celibate. As far as individual male in question..to take a liberty with a sexual partner that was preagreed not to be taken is no different than date rape, and should be treated legally exactly the same. I know, I am a libertarian, and such notions rankle my nosehairs, but truely this should be treated as an an assault. Unless we police ourselves, the government will do it for us. Now to your question. We all have met individuals outside of the lifestyle who would regard our non exclusive choices as twisted and immoral. I recently met an individual who is a "Fur" [only having sex in animal costumes]. Since she was open with us, I told her of our lifestyle, to which she cringed in disqust and condemned our morality....it is truely in the eye of the beholder.
Oak Park MI			Username hidden (9 post)

User Details are only visible to members.	In my opinion, failing to use a condom on someone is attempted murder. I only go bare on my wife. That's what we share----it's something special. But we once swung with a couple where the male ran out of condoms and went bare on her without our approval. My wife found out too late and told me what happened. You see, when getting fucked from behind it's sometimes difficult for the female to feel the difference. She turned around and noticed an immature buffoon with his flaccid unconcealed pecker. It was too late. Our fun for that night came to a quick end. Of course I had to use a condom on his partner though. Right? About two more months from now and we'll get tested. Swinging is supposed to be fun. It's not worth the worrying of STDs. When you swing you'll meet so many losers like this out there who will lie and totally lose all sense of responsibility. Men like this are immature and don't give a f..k about the person they are swinging with. That bastard didn't even get her off. What a loser. He's a member with his wife on SLS and believe me, I regret not posting their screen name. But anyway... The truth about condoms is that I love them. They feel sexy. Unfortunately we can't fully protect ourselves from STDs, but we can at least try. Using a condom is a great way of protecting yourself and showing respect for your new partner. We'll never know who invented the condom but it sure was a great invention. In ancient times the Chinese tried to prevent infection by wrapping oiled silk paper around the penis, and the Japanese had leather and tortoiseshell sheaths. The Romans used tampons that had been dipped in herbs and condoms made of goats' bladders. So you can see the incredible evolution of comfort that we now have today and there are STILL men out there today who complain about condoms and refuse to use them. Be safe!
Plantation FL			Username hidden (25 post)

User Details are only visible to members.	Dan: You hit the nail on the head. My/your safety depends on how honest people are. The reality? Very few are honest about traits which could be a deal breaker. What amazes me more? Very few folks ask others about past risky experiences/lingering STDs and the like. Hell, just getting guys to ask about birth control is a MAJOR step. I was asked a total of 1x. What are you using? It makes a difference even with condoms. I've seen men want to go down on my gf (fertile), after she kissed them, after a BJ. Hello. It only takes on swimmer to seal the deal. Even precum on the hand then placed in a vagina is risking daddyhood. The whole thing amazes me. Mischief who is very careful
Glen Burnie MD			Username hidden (2785 post)

User Details are only visible to members.	To clarify: Bareback, for us at least, is a very unique and limited facet of our sexual lifestyle. Those who we have practiced it with have all been tested on a six month basis. As far as other people we play with: 1) We are not extremely active. We rarely include more than one new partner per year. 2) We disclose to all new and continuing partners any detail of our sex lives they might ask. 3) This does not mean we hand out a sexual resume with dates, times, and activities - along with a list of phone numbers and vital stats. We could live out our lives avoiding all possible dangers, but we do not. Going back to an old analogy, I do demand to check out the ropes and pinions of any other persons I climb with. Now, there are people who get off on identifying people who take un acceptable risks and "outing" them in order to ban them from legitimate activities. Those individuals are sick, and one would expect the Populi Romani to rise and throw them off the Senate Forum floor.
Oak Park MI			Username hidden (9 post)

User Details are only visible to members.	Ok....No we don't follow everyone around 24-7 to check their sexual activity...neither do most spouses. At some point, somewhere, we make a decision to trust, based on intuition, fact, and just plain evaluation of character. Do you want total safety....then abstinence is the only solution. Then you can be sure...provided you never have a blood transfusion, work in a health care field, or have a dental procedure. Many do make this choice of abstinence, and is not to be eschewed. It just isn't my cup of tea. The long and short of it is....the price for total safety is too much to pay when balanced against the loss of quality of life. This is our choice...probably influenced by Libertarian leanings.
Oak Park MI			Username hidden (9 post)

User Details are only visible to members.	Ok...I have found that the ultimate sexual experience is bareback. I simply love to see my wife with SAFE BBC bareback, with internal and external climax. No we are not crazy. We make sure all are healthy, and that accidents are unlikely. We will not do this with strangers, just as I will not climb without inspecting ropes myself. Too carry this analogy one step further, I am not willing to gain an extra level of safety by selling my ropes and confining my climbing to videos. This is not a cuckhold thing for me. I certainly do not feel that she can only have bareback, and anything else I won't enjoy. It just adds to the natural experience, when done when known friends. There is no rhyme or reason in what we prefer sexually. All of us have heard of particular fetishes that boggle our minds....this is just something we enjoy.
Oak Park MI			Username hidden (9 post)

User Details are only visible to members.	Condoms?No ,I don't think I would have sex with someone wearing gloves.
Philadelphia PA			Username hidden (261 post)

User Details are only visible to members.	Review the facts and reach your own conclusion. If you feel that any mention of blacks is racist then you are entitled to live in your politically correct bubble. In the meantime we will have an open adult discussion about the data and facts connected with HIV/AIDS. From avert dot org/usastatr.htm America's black and Hispanic communities have been disproportionately affected by HIV and AIDS. In 2004, the total number of AIDS cases ever diagnosed in black people overtook the number diagnosed in whites. During 2004, 50% of all new HIV diagnoses and 50% of new AIDS diagnoses were in black people. In recent years there has been a slight decline in the number of black people newly diagnosed with HIV, and fewer Hispanics were diagnosed with HIV in 2004 than in 2001. However the rate of HIV diagnoses among Asians/Pacific Islanders increased by an estimated 40% between 2001 and 2004. Male-to-male sexual contact probably caused the majority (66%) of infections in white people living with AIDS. An additional 14% of white people were exposed through injection drug use, 11% through heterosexual contact and 8% through both male-to-male sexual contact and injection drug use. Among black people living with AIDS, male-to-male sexual contact, heterosexual contact and injection drug use each account for around 30% of infections.
Fort Lee NJ			Username hidden (13 post)

User Details are only visible to members.	"We use condoms with singles, blacks, and people we meet anonymously in clubs" Okay, that might just be the most overtly rascist statement we've seen in a loooooooooong time...
Willingboro NJ			Username hidden (9344 post)

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