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TOPIC: Question to all you Bare Back only folks
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DandJ.... why don't you just admit that you enjoy (like everyone does) sex w/o condoms... but, you will throw out any stat or news flash out ther to justify what you enjoy. Priest, child molestors, thiefs, religion freaks, spouse abusers, drug abusers, etc, etc,.... ALL of them will try to justify and get you to understand their rationale for doing so. Doesn't make it right though.

How about this.... we go down to the blvd, I pay for you to have bareback sex with the man or woman of your choice, or multilple ppl, for 10 encounters? And we'll check your stats after your tests???? I mean, you'll be safe for the first 199 sex acts.... I've got the money.....

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Nine.... age has nothing to do with knowing or hearing of car accidents. Ever driven in Saudi Arabia... I have, and there's lots of accidents. How about Naples, Itay or India or Turkey. Take someone from there, or your avg Nascar drivier, or police officer from ANYWHERE, and a younger one in age would surely KNOW more of more car accidents than you.... age doesn't always factor into everything.

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I was going to address that too, Nine. My age does not have anything to do with other people I know and whether they have been in an accident. I know people from age 18 to 76, who drive. And only a handful over the years have been in car accidents.

Thank you, D and J, for replying to my curiosity for the reason you don't like condoms.

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"You're younger than I, which is why you know fewer who have been in accidents"

so now your saying since you are older you have more knowledge then us younger folk ? Also your still spinning statistics..........

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Seduction, do you feel most who contact you are into feeling, connecting sex? Oh, you thought I was talking about you? I'm talking about the averages here.

We have a high level of connection we're looking for and many here talk about limiting their feelings and how they don't like attachments to those they swing with.

That's why we don't play often. But we do play with ourselves. Bareback.

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Seduction, you keep getting me mixed up with others. I'm not the one who discussed screening in detail. I'm the one who came up with the statistic that condoms reduce risk 10 times. I don't say others should bareback. I try to deliineate the actual risks of barebacking, because I want to know. Remember, I bareback, so it is important to me. It doesn't seem as important to you since you don't pay attention to what I've said.

I said if condom users fuck ten times as many people as those who bareback, both have equal risk. Perfect says that is incorrect, but didn't detail my mistake in statistics. I'm the one citing statistics while others talk about Russian roulette and dicks falling off.

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You're younger than I, which is why you know fewer who have been in accidents. Do you understand those figures? One in 30,000. You are much more likely to die in an auto accident than by HIV. Seat belts should be much more important to you than condoms.

Condoms reduce risk and they reduce feeling by about the same amount. For us, swinging with condoms is not worth the sex. It's so so sex. We don't do so so sex. We'd rather not swing. And we don't much, because not many here are into feeling sex, connecting sex. There seems more an emphasis on quantity sex.

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Maybe Russian Roulette was not the best example. I know many people that have never been in a car accident. Now, what if a person were to meet that 1 in 30,000- was it?- that had HIV, but did not know it yet, and they had sex, and the conditions were right- and I don't mean ulcerations that are visible. How many people want to have unprotected sex until they reach that one person who is infected? And I am not trying to change barebacker's minds, I am just curious as to the reasoning behind the decision.

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Perfect, you've repeated that comment but never backed it up. Repetition seems to be your substitute for reason.

Enosburg Falls VT
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PD, you made the perceptive statement that not all people die from HIV. In fact HIV gets less deadly everyday. Yet you compare barebacking to Russian roulette where if you lose the roulette you likely die. HIV itself is not comparable to Russian roulette. Barebacking is so much less comparable that you lose all credibility by comparing it.

Russian roulette is one in six. Barebacking is something on the order of 1 in 10,000 to 30,000 of catching HIV, which is itself is not a death sentence. Barebacking is much more comparable to driving, where, as in barebacking, an accident doesn't mean death. However the risk of an accident is far greater in driving than HIV in barebacking, as is the risk of death. The risk of an accident driving is over 50% in a lifetime. I'm virtually the only person I know who hasn't been in a serious auto accident.

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