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8, you are misinformed about the risk of HIV transmission. It is not 50%, it is not roulette. It is not one in six, not one in ten. The best figures are far less than that. One in 200 is the one that's backed up with real evidence.

One in 200 is an average. Conceivably it could happen the first time if all the conditions were perfect. But that is not what happens in the real. HIV requires repeated acts in order to transmit enough virus to evade out bodies' immune systems. This is what most people do not understand about HIV.

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Guilty as well for not using connies and dams for oral sex. Yet, for penetration is an absolute must...apparently not as careful as we would like to be and we know it. The only fall back factor is a strong screening process...and then again, that is not an absolute either!

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I keep typing badly, I feel like an idiot now.

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soory about my bad spelling on last post

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Well replying to your statement we use condoms and the people we use them with are usually people we really have gotten to know and the real reason i posted it is because i dont hardly know anyone out there that is completely safe so if we practice dental dams and condoms we would be as safe as possible but others who claim to practice safe sex are not completely including us. So when I say we practice safe sex we have used dental damns and condoms what I meant is there were a couple times we were guilty of not practicing safe sex using dental damns.

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and yes TrooperandPirate... you took my cherry to the site.... now, we "gotta give your prize" when/where ya like it....

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I don't think kissing someone or oral is in the same arena as a dick inside a pussy or ass with no condom....

and, stats... their for my ass.... your chances of getting an STD or HIV from someone who has it, is 50%!!! It's like red/black roullette.... w/o the 0. You're either going to get it or not.... don't give me that stat stuff. If you ask anyone with it, they can tell you that they didn't have sex with the suspected person 200 times. Once is all it takes. Would you jump off a bridge with or w/o a bunjee cord? Would you fly with a drunk or sober pilot?

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Wow, now I am more confused you claim to practice safe sex but then contradict yourself by say doing oral is not practicing safe sex ? So why use condoms at all, in your claim it seems that people that have bareback anal/vaginal sex are at the same risk as someone whom performs oral............

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Well I have one comment many want you to use condoms but still give oral and recieve without. Sorry but its bodily fluid so everyone whom uses condoms for penetration who claim they practice safe sex are not any safer than those who bareback because they have unprotected oral. So basically everyone whom swings barebacks. Sorry but its the truth. We practice safe sex to but are guilty of oral.

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8, you posted many defensive assumptions about how unsafe barebacking is. What are the facts on safety? How dangerous is barebacking actually? Some of us posting here in the bareback forum have tried to quantify that. As in studies show that the risk of getting HIV fucking a person infected with HIV bareback is one in 200. The risk of meeting an infected person in the swinging world is one in 1,000, one in 10,000, one in 15,000? Of course if you've fucked 1,000 people then you've increased your risks. Most of us haven't.

As to the other less deadly STD's, you likely are infected with herpes and HPV just as we all are. Check out the CDC site for the figures, they have been posted here. I've never seen gonnorhea, and it's curable, so it's less of a threat. You can get virtually all the STD's (save for HIV, very, very rare, almost impossible) going down on an infected person. I'm not about to use dental dams or condoms for that pleasure. I think 99% of those here don't either. That is a form of barebacking.

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