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Perfect confuses and conflates two aspects of risk. What I was discussing was the relative risks of barebacking and condom use. Condom use has 1/10 the risk of barebacking in the best case scenario of their proper use.

Perfect's confusion is over a separate aspect of risk: the risk of the person you fuck being infected. I have discussed that before, somewhere in the 1 in 10,000 to 1 in 50,000 depending on which source is cited.

Perfect implies, but does not clearly state, that regular condom users will fuck people who are less at risk for HIV infection than barebackers do. That assumes the condom users you fuck don't fuck barebackers, which you can't know. That assumes the condom users you fuck always use condoms with others, which again you can't know. Studies have not been cited to back this up. It's wishful thinking.

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"If you fuck 10 people using condoms, the chance of one of those failure situations happening is one, as in 1/10x10=1. In other words you actually bareback statistically one time for every ten times using condoms. So if a barebacker fucks one person and a condom user fucks ten people, they have the same risk, statistically."

WRONG, WRONG, WRONG, WRONG!

You have to figure the probabiliy of that failure occuring DURING an interaction with an infected person!

YOUR STUPID MATH ONLY WORKS IF ALL THE PARTNERS ARE INFECTED!!!!

A little bit on knowledge is dangerous......and DandJ is very dangerous

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Lol She that is true

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I was worried there.. naked fish cleaning and all..one slip of that knife can leave a hell of a boo boo...

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If you fuck ten people that have no stds, you won't get an std from those ten people.

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"It matters what your play partners do........or what they don't tell you they do."

Very true! Statistics can be a guide for life's decisions, but things still happen, statistics or no statistics. Like I said, we knew a few unlucky vanilla people. One was a cheater, involved with multiple people she knew pretty well, but I guess they did something with someone, and it was passed on to her. She was not using any protection. The other one was impulsive, also no protection. Statistics are fine on paper, and they seem to tell a story, but it is not real life.

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Perfect is back with his drunken math. He has trouble with 1/10 times 10 equals one. For those who haven't been here for the tutorial on math for Perfect, the accepted risk reduction of condoms ranges between 60% to 90%.

That figure is determined by how many condoms fail, the frequency of improper use, how many times they roll off, as well as incidences of partial coverage and minor leaks. 10% failure is the lowest figure cited, or a risk that is 1/10th of barebacking.

If you fuck 10 people using condoms, the chance of one of those failure situations happening is one, as in 1/10x10=1. In other words you actually bareback statistically one time for every ten times using condoms. So if a barebacker fucks one person and a condom user fucks ten people, they have the same risk, statistically.

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He thinks he understands it when you call him on it. His claim is always he can 'weed out' those that are telling him the truth.

lol.

Most of try to weed out the bad ones and are very selective. He'll try to tell you that for every 10 people that we play with we have the same odds of infection as he does for every 1 person he plays with. He's to stubborn or dense to comprehend that should we play with one of the bad weedsor chances of getting infected are much, much lower than his. He just can't understand that's it's most important how many infected people you play with than it is how many people you play with in total.

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"But then we are very selective, don't go to clubs, don't go to parties, and don't play all that often."

rofl.

It doesn't matter all that much what YOU do. It matters what your play partners do........or what they don't tell you they do.

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Lol yes im dressed, Kids were playing while i cleaned fish..

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