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FYI from The CDC web site

"HPV infection can occur in both male and female genital areas that are covered or protected by a latex condom, as well as in areas that are not covered. While the effect of condoms in preventing HPV infection is unknown, condom use has been associated with a lower rate of cervical cancer, an HPV-associated disease."

"Certain types of HPV have been linked to cancer of the anus and penis in men. These cancers are rare –especially in men with healthy immune systems. The types of HPV that can cause genital warts are not the same as the types that can cause penile or anal cancer."

About 1% of sexually active men in the U.S. have genital warts at any one time.

The American Cancer Society (ACS) estimates that about 1,530 men will be diagnosed with penile cancer in the U.S. in 2006. In this country, penile cancer accounts for about 0.2% of all cancers in men. It is especially rare in circumcised men.

ACS estimates that about 1,910 men will be diagnosed with anal cancer in 2006. The risk for anal cancer is 17 times higher among gay and bisexual men than among heterosexual men. The risk is also higher among men with compromised immune systems, including those with HIV.

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I think you are correct, safe sex is a joke. I have seen condoms break. I have seen ppl who had small cut on their finger that could have passed a small amount of blood to others.

I agree, contact with others is contact with others. we have meet couples who think only letting the women play is safe sex, I'm BI, but i still think it is not safe at all. We are all trying to find clean dd free ppl as possible, but things still happen as a few couple are willing to bed hop each weekend with new ppl.

oral sex to me is not safe sex, we have meet a few ppl that what a condom for intercourse but feel it is ok not to where a condom during oral ? why not, why have the pre-cum or leakage fluid in your mouth but not in any other area? does not make sense to me.

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What about F/F.

Seems to me the use of the condom only prevents issues carried by semen?

F/F in Bi women during oral intercourse seems to get more germs or bacteria into another person just as easy.

why do sssooooooo many people allow finger intercourse when blood can be transfered if anyone has a cut on finger or in groups of BI female i have seen them do oral on several girls one after another, so if the first one had anything, the person doing the oral just pasted it on to others??????

Oral sex seems like the WORST form of sex and easiest to transfer issues to others???

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There are only a couple of types that cause cervical cancer. They are very common. Use condoms and the risk IS lower. I'm not an expert on warts. I merely know using a condom consistently in the 70's would have saved me surgery.

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So I've been doing some research on this....from what I understand, there are tons of different kinds of HPV...any common wart on the hand or wherever is also HPV.

So, with that said, can a common wart on the hand be passed to the penis? And once grown on the penis...then what? Genital warts?

Mischief help! I'm a paranoid woman that feels more in control when I KNOW.

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Is it a valid assumption that there were only 82 virgins out of the 24,000?

I know that's not true, but it is funny. There was really 100 virgins only 82 were willing to participate.

This study proves what my own life proved. Use condoms=less problems. I was already convinced.

But the drive to not use condoms is very strong. I've watched tons of folks have intercourse without them.

I'm a certified pain in the ass about safer play.

Mischief w/latex

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Twelve of the 42 women who said their partners always used condoms became infected. Rachel Winer, a researcher in the university's epidemiology department, said it could be that the couples did not use the condoms correctly or had some sexual contact before putting on a condom.

Recent medical advances might someday render the condom debate moot: Earlier this month, the government approved the first vaccine against HPV, and public health officials are urging that girls be routinely vaccinated before they become sexually active.

The study comes as the Food and Drug Administration is revising rules for the claims that manufacturers can make on how well condoms prevent sexually transmitted diseases.

Packages now must state: "If used properly, latex condoms will help to reduce the risk of transmission of HIV infection (AIDS) and many other sexually transmitted diseases." But revisions were ordered by Congress in 2000 amid pressure from conservative groups demanding "medically accurate" claims as to condoms' effectiveness.

Safe-sex advocates warn that changing the wording would undermine public confidence in, and use of, condoms.

At the time, there was solid evidence only on how well condoms prevent pregnancy, HIV and, in men, gonorrhea. Recent research has produced strong evidence condoms protect well against gonorrhea, chlamydia and herpes in both men and women, said Dr. Ward Cates Jr., president of the Institute for Family Health at Family Health International. This study adds HPV to that list, he said.

"This will help clinicians to counsel their patients about the effectiveness of condoms to reduce another of the sexually transmitted infections -- if condoms are used consistently and correctly," Cates said.

The researchers invited 24,000 female students ages 18 to 22 at the Seattle university to be in the study. Starting in 2001, they followed 82 from before their first vaginal intercourse, testing the women for HPV with swabs of the cervix and other genital areas every four months. The women kept online diaries detailing each act of intercourse, including condom use and whether there was any genital contact without a condom.

Winer said previous HPV studies either showed no protection from condoms or were inconclusive. This one included only virgins and collected more details, and the computer diaries helped women be more honest about condom use than those in studies where people are interviewed about their sexual behavior, she said.

"This is about as ideal a study as you can get," said Dr. Tom Fitch, a San Antonio pediatrician and board chairman at the Medical Institute for Sexual Health, which stresses abstinence and monogamy as the only sure ways to prevent sexually transmitted infections.

Nevertheless, Fitch noted that some consistent condom users still were infected with HPV. Fitch and Kloser also suggested that the results in the real world -- say, among poor, inner-city women -- might be different from those with college women.

Fitch said several studies have shown that at most, 50 percent of people reported using a condom every time they had sex.

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Condoms Proven to Protect Against Virus

By LINDA A. JOHNSON Associated Press Writer

June 21, 2006, 9:58 PM EDT

For the first time, scientists have proof that condoms offer women impressive protection against the virus that causes cervical cancer.

A three-year study of female college students -- all virgins at the start -- found that women whose partners always wore a condom during sex were 70 percent less likely to become infected with the human papilloma virus, or HPV, than those whose partners used protection less than 5 percent of the time.

"That's pretty awesome. There aren't too many times when you can have an intervention that would offer so much protection," said Dr. Patricia Kloser, an infectious-disease specialist at University of Medicine and Dentistry of New Jersey who was not part of the study.

Condoms have been shown convincingly to prevent pregnancy and AIDS. But conservatives who want to see abstinence taught in schools have long argued that condoms do not protect well against diseases such as HPV, because men can spread the virus to women from sores on their genitals outside the area covered by a condom.

However, the researchers at the University of Washington found that the chances of HPV being spread that way appear to be small.

Human papilloma virus -- which can cause cervical cancer, genital warts and vaginal, vulvar, anal and penile cancers -- is the most common sexually transmitted disease, infecting about 80 percent of young women within five years of becoming sexually active. An estimated 630 million people worldwide are infected.

The virus is spread during sex from contact with the sores, or lesions, that develop around infected cells.

Often, the virus is killed by the immune system, but in some people HPV can take hold and cause lesions that can turn cancerous years later. Cervical cancer strikes about 10,520 American women and kills about 3,500 each year. Worldwide, about 500,000 women develop cervical cancer and nearly 300,000 die from it every year.

In the HPV study, published in Thursday's New England Journal of Medicine, none of the women who reported that their partners always used condoms developed lesions during the three-year period. Fourteen women whose partners used condoms less regularly got lesions.

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Oh... my gf and I joke that's why we like girls... FF sex is safer.

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Serotypes 16 and 18 are major culprits in causing cervical cancers.

If you are not virgins you probably have already had them. Did you go to college? The rates of HPV infections in young people like college aged kids is very, very high.

I had cervical cancer at the ripe age of 22. It was caught by a routine pap. Not a symptom in sight. The body does clear the viruses over time. My paps have been clear since I started using condoms consistently. Condoms are not perfect but they really do help keep down problems.

I'm not scared. STDs have my respect and awarenesss. My behavior is adjusted accordingly.

safer Mischief is fun.

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