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TOPIC: Condom apathy and erection issues - pet peeve
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I think I'm going to go over under my rock and control myself here.....

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Seduction--well right, unwanted fatherhood can be the basis for....well, a father who is like an STD! Because he didn't want fatherhood to begin with anyway!

Which is why unplanned fatherhood is as bad as any STD for all involved.

But even with my stated point of view, generally speaking, I am a "safety" guy (whatever that may mean). But I'm not absolutely consistent and I wonder how effective rubbers really are to begin with. I don't need more than 1 time asking to put one on (and I usually do on my own initiative at that) but if my partner protests, I'll probably be fucking her without one.

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I beg to differ with you, M.

At least with an STD, the only person who has to "deal" is the one with said STD, as opposed to an unwanted child.

Also, some STDs are easily treated. *Some*.

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One thing I overlooked is the role of rubbers in birth control which is invaluable. As long as it doesn't fall off it is extremely effective in preventing pregnancy and it is pretty foolish and risky for any unfixed guy to fuck relative stranger or unstable women without one. Now if you've had a vasectomy like me, the real danger that condoms really protect against (unwanted fatherhood) is gone so their real benefit is rendered futile against my elected infertility. Unwanted fatherhood is as bad as any STD but few really talk about it here, they just belabor and lament about the dread of STDs that they've likely had exposure to anyway and act as if because they use rubbers they've got a get out of jail free pass. I think they're delusional and flouting logic and common sense.

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This topic to me is moot because the lifestyle we're all involved in puts us at high risk of eventually getting an incurable viral STD, rubber or no rubber. Wearing a rubber you still have some skin on skin genital contact so it's silly to write as if one is holier than thou because s/he insists on rubbers while condemning others as lowlife scumbags or stupid because they opt out of rubber usage. Sorry to break it to you rubber snobs but having sex with mulitple persons who also have sex with multiple persons renders the long term effectiveness of condoms very limited. That being said I usually wear rubbers but I'm definitely not a snob about it and I am not always absolutely consistent although it is my general preference even though it only offers very limited long-term protection.

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Not wearing a condom has more possible implications than diseases. I had a single woman a few years ago say that she did not like them and I was just stupid. I mean I love my kid but it is very expensive.

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Sounds to me like your partner and you have some serious communication problems.

My wife would be LIVID if I had bareback sex with anyone. This is a "hard rule" for us. Hard rules are ones that under no circumstances may be brought up for discussion in the "heat of the moment". To break one is a serious breach of trust.

If we ever choose to make an exception or modify a hard rule, it must be done in advance.

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I read through the thread. Saw the cock ring suggestion. It's a good suggestion especially for males with large penis to hold the erection once they get it. I've also been considering to try the female condom. I hear reviews that they are "awful" in that they are noisy and can slip easily. But I have yet to try for myself. I expect they wouldn't be my choice in vanilla life, but just maybe it's an option that can work in swinger life. The one definite benefit is that they don't restrict the penis. They also cover a bit of the outer vagina which gives better protection against hpv/herps. Final suggestion: carry viagra. Although my boyfriend doesn't need, he's always got a pack on hand to lend if he see's a guy having erection trouble with me. It eases the discomfort if it's a guy to guy suggestion. And my b/f knows that his girl is going to be unhappy if something doesn't happen lol. I personally don't care if that's what they need to get the job done.

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Seduction4Two,

no, I don't consider this issue a cat fight. It's more serious........

In your opinion it's okay to call me (and a lot of other people) stupid for not using condoms all the time. That's not an attack and perfectly fine.

Now I voice MY opinion to call people who call me ( and a lot of other people) stupid, stupid themselves for being so generalizing and intolerant. All of a sudden it's an attack.

What gives?

Do you just don't understand me, or you don't WANT to understand me?

I understand that you most likely insist in condoms all the time. Perfectly fine with me, not the slightest problem. I would never call you or anybody stupid for that. But if some intolerant idiot has to blurt it out some dumb statement here, I think I have the right to voice my opinion too.

In any case, no further comment needed.

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Catfight? Can I watch?

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