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TOPIC: Bee_Venom__HIV
Created by: JandGinSD
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An article in theweek dot com today (the URL apparently cannot be posted here) relates the research of Joshua L. Hood, at Washington University School of Medicine, where they have found a way to possibly eliminate the HIV virus.

Essentially, rather than attacking the virus itself, which is very small and hides easily, it goes after its protective membrane defenses. What makes that doubly good is that the virus is highly unlikely to mutate into a resistant form, as it is not itself compromised. They kill the cell, not the virus (which needs thew cell to replicate), with melittin in bee venom.

It has been proven to be highly effective in vitro, but live subject tests are further down the line. An impediment is the natural immune system response to the presence of bee venom.

This has a lot of promise if it can develop into a marketable product. The likely product will be a sexual lubricant gel that prevents the initial infection, rather than something that chases down and eliminates/arrests an already present infection - though that is possible too.

Of course, this would be a major advancement for those in the lifestyle. Now if HSV2 and HPV could be handled, we'd be in store for some rather uninhibited play.

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Thanks for that heads-up. I subscribe to The Week and somehow managed to miss that. Basic research is always going to reap benefits, just not as quickly as some would hope, but consider it as finding chinks in the armor that can be leveraged later...

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I thought it was an interesting idea, and one that hopefully opens doors to further research down a new path. So many suffering in this world, an awesome idea to alleviate some of it.

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Yeah, that's the problem. It certainly is a big impediment to a maintenance or cure solution. However, as a topical agent to locally arrest the initial infection, it might get some traction. It's not my area of science, but is an interesting approach to it.

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I'd put $1,000 on "this isn't going anywhere", unfortunately.

A somewhat interesting finding, but I don't think it's going to work in vivo at a dosage that does not induce a massive immune system response.

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An article in theweek dot com today (the URL apparently cannot be posted here) relates the research of Joshua L. Hood, at Washington University School of Medicine, where they have found a way to possibly eliminate the HIV virus.

Essentially, rather than attacking the virus itself, which is very small and hides easily, it goes after its protective membrane defenses. What makes that doubly good is that the virus is highly unlikely to mutate into a resistant form, as it is not itself compromised. They kill the cell, not the virus (which needs thew cell to replicate), with melittin in bee venom.

It has been proven to be highly effective in vitro, but live subject tests are further down the line. An impediment is the natural immune system response to the presence of bee venom.

This has a lot of promise if it can develop into a marketable product. The likely product will be a sexual lubricant gel that prevents the initial infection, rather than something that chases down and eliminates/arrests an already present infection - though that is possible too.

Of course, this would be a major advancement for those in the lifestyle. Now if HSV2 and HPV could be handled, we'd be in store for some rather uninhibited play.

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