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What does Vermont have to do with calling me a liar???

I guess I'm incredibly dense! What does this post mean, Seduction? And who is the you in your post???

"And you are right, I am absolutely insensitive to people like you and men with ED, I don't swing to nurture and baby the spouses who can't get it up, I'm not here to bring my husband who can get it up to entertain women who's hubby can't. There are meds for that, and if you refuse to take them then find someone else to give physical therapy to your lifeless worm"

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Deseos, are you are having difficulty remembering what you post???

From your last post: "As for me... I really do not care if you acknowledge your disclosure or not."

From previous posts:

"DandJ...I have asked you numerous times when or if you disclose the fact that you bareback. But, you always seem to pass the buck and not answer me or the several others who have asked pretty much the same thing."

"If you want to justify your not disclosing you are a barebacker by saying that facts are that there are many who don't disclose and you are not the only one, well...okay! However, if you are not part of the solution, then guess what? You are now part of the problem."

"It damn well should be within your profile."

"...you still have not accepted responsibility for not disclosing your barebacking practices within your profile."

"What you put in your profile is most definitely everyone's business. D disclosing you are barebackers should be highlighted in freakin' bold ass letters...Caps, even. ;-)"

"DandJ...Sed. is right about you luring people in and then dropping the bomb. That is putting people in an uncomfortable position and screams manipulation. Not cool. ;-)"

Seems like you do indeed care about whether I acknowledge my disclosure or not.

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Seduction, all I want is for you to stop lying about what you wrote and who to.

You keep on lying about it at the same time you keep bringing it up!

It's funny, sad, and pathetic at the same time. I do think it is a mean spirited thing to write.

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It is so interesting that Seduction denies flinging the term "lifeless worm" toward me. Here is the whole paragraph of its use:

"And you are right, I am absolutely insensitive to people like you and men with ED, I don't swing to nurture and baby the spouses who can't get it up, I'm not here to bring my husband who can get it up to entertain women who's hubby can't. There are meds for that, and if you refuse to take them then find someone else to give physical therapy to your lifeless worm"

The post began with "Poor baby, still licking your wounds, huh DandJ," So it was obviously directed at me, with the you and your reinforcing that. But Seduction wants to pretend those words weren't for me. More dishonesty.

I understand that Seduction wishes that comment hurt me deeply, (gushing tears); instead it hightlights Seduction's hostility, meaness, and dishonesty in not taking responsibility for what Seduction posts.

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That's pretty reasonable Jack.

The key point is being educated and honest.

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I feel like I'm at a tennis match, lol. This is not in support of barebacking, nor is it against, but I do believe people have the right to make their own choices, hopefully educated choices, about the risks involved. The risks are greater for STIs than for HIV, which is what more people are worried about, mostly because there are more STIs out there than HIV.

Look you can make stats support just about anything, and the truth is bareback sex with unknown untested partners is risky, and in the 11 years now (my math is fucked up, I thought it was ten, loll) that we've been in the Lifestyle we have seen far more people at clubs and parties go bareback than not. While we don't make a habit out of it, we do it ocassionally too, and at a guess I'd say that most people in the lifestyle have at least done it a few times, in the heat of the moment. However, we do get tested a couple of times a year, because we don't want to be spreading anything to anyone. We haven't even caught a cold yet, well, from sex anyway, lol. We do use condoms (non latex) most of the time and we do stay pretty much on top of our health.

Here's where we stand on this. People who use condoms have that right and should not be bashed for it nor should they be "convinced into going bareback. Folks who go bareback should know the risks they take, be educated about those risks, let folks they will be playing with know, and let their partners make their own choices, and get tested regularly. Bottom line, no one can control anyone else's choices.

Just my two cents, for what it's worth.

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* Get your popcorn, peanuts, beer here...........

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Patogether, the math is that out of ten times with condoms on, statistically one will be bareback. Bareback is bareback. Ten condom uses = one bareback. Doesn't matter who barebacks or with whom.

Perfect's claim is that condom users are less risky than barebackers, so that one bareback with regular condom users is safer than a bareback with barebackers. That assumes that those condom users always fuck condom users. You don't know that. That assumes all condom users are upfront and honest about their condom use. You don't know that. And where are the studies or stats to back up this claim? Claims of want rather than reason.

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It really is funny that Seduction once again pronounced me dangerous just after Deseos wrote again to say no one has condemed me. Dangerous is a little bit of a condemnation. "Lifeless worm." is another. Sue is yet another especially combined with "I will do all I can to make sure you pay for that." These aren't terms of endearment!

There is a real control issue here. Several of you make such a issue of whether I answer your questions and whether I disclose. You often don't answer my questions, why in hell should I answer yours??? I'm sorry if you're so thck and egotisical that you think you will control me.

This is the point: control. You condemn me and other barebackers and say you don't. There is a huge issue that I tell you how and when I disclose. It's not your business. Trying to force me to dance to your tune is about as palatable to me as someone forcing you to bareback would be to you.

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I also makes searching a tad bit easier. It is no different to listing your sexual preferences. It makes it easier to weed out what you are looking for and not looking for.

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