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TOPIC: Wounded Knee for sale if you got 4 million
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SIOUX FALLS, S.D. — One of the country's poorest Native American tribes wants to buy a historically significant piece of land where 300 of their ancestors were killed, but tribal leaders say the nearly $4 million price tag for a property appraised at less than $7,000 is just too much.

James Czywczynski is trying to sell a 40-acre fraction of the Wounded Knee National Historic Landmark on the Pine Ridge Indian Reservation to the Oglala Sioux Tribe. The land sits adjacent to a gravesite where about 150 of the 300 Lakota men, women and children killed by the 7th Cavalry in 1890 are buried.

Czywczynski, whose family has owned the property since 1968, recently gave the tribe an ultimatum: purchase the land for $3.9 million or he will open up bidding to non-Native Americans. He said he has been trying to sell the land to the tribe for years.

The ultimatum comes right before the tribe is poised to receive about $20 million from the Cobell lawsuit— a $3.4 billion settlement stemming from a class-action lawsuit filed over American Indian land royalties mismanaged by the government for more than a century.

"I think it's ridiculous that he's putting a price on it like that," said Kevin Yellow Bird Steele, a tribal council representative from the Wounded Knee district, who thinks Czywczynski is putting pressure on the tribe because of the impending money. "We need to come down to earth and be realistic. We're not rich. We're not a rich tribe."

Czywczynski insists the site's historical significance adds value.

"I'm getting older now and my family and myself want to dispose of this property," said Czywczynski, 75, who now lives in Rapid City. "We just want to see it in the hands of the Indian people rather than put it on the open market to the public."

Craig Dillon, a tribal council member on the Land Committee, said he would like to see the tribe buy the land at Wounded Knee because then they could build a museum commemorating the massacre with artifacts, food vendors and a place for local artists to sell their art to visitors.

"But with the price the way it is, I don't think the tribe could ever buy it," Dillon said.

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**Despite being unapologetically white, it's stories like this that really make me wish the natives would band together and go on a scalping spree. I don't feel any guilt about the way that my ancestors oppressed and murdered them. Didn't happen on my watch. **

Is it possible that Czywczynski feels the same?

**damn if it doesn't get my blood boiling when I see natives (or any other minority for that matter) more or less being legally oppressed today.**

I disagree that it's oppression.

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I know. Appreciate it. You sexy thing you...

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That was meant to be Nk....sorry abt that....Nice one Nk! LOL

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**Despite being unapologetically white, it's stories like this that really make me wish the natives would band together and go on a scalping spree. I don't feel any guilt about the way that my ancestors oppressed and murdered them. Didn't happen on my watch. But damn if it doesn't get my blood boiling when I see natives (or any other minority for that matter) more or less being legally oppressed today. **

Mr.T, can we try to discuss this logically without getting upset at each other? :)

I come from a line of people who were oppressed, so I can understand the anger. But getting emotional isn't going to make for a productive exchange.

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LMAO! Nice Nor!! ;)

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Maybe when he dies, his heirs will be more reasonable.

BWAHAHAHAHA... Sorry. Couldn't say that with a straight face.

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LMAO!!! Sounds like the old man is just sore because when AIM happened, his shit got burnt to the ground. Shit that shouldn't have been there in the first place. He had cabins, museum, and a store. Makes me want to go and build that shit in his cemetery over his grave!

"Our land is more valuable than your money. As long as the sun shines and the waters flow, this land will be here to give life to men and animals; therefore, we cannot sell this land. It was put here for us by the Great Spirit and we cannot sell it because it does not belong to us." - Chief of the Blackfeet

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More like "Welcome to OUR America. Where we'll never really stop screwing over the people who were on our land before we got here to claim it"

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Who the fuck asked for your sympathy? Also, stop saying dog eat dog in every other post.

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Cplo:

Welcome to America. A land where the man with something rules, and you either buy at his inflated prices or you don't get it.

As I said, personally it is wrong, but we see this to a lesser extent across the board so I am mostly numb to it. The answer these forums give to greed is shut up and take it. So make of that as you will. It's unfair, but you k ow what? Using the ideals of these forums acceptance of dog eat dog I cannot provide you with any real sympathy. These forums are devoid of it.

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