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10. Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children's factory labor in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production. Americans are being taxed to support what we call 'public' schools, but are actually "government force-tax-funded schools " Even private schools are government regulated. The purpose is to train the young to work for the communal debt system. We also call it the Department of Education, the NEA and Outcome Based "Education" . These are used so that all children can be indoctrinated and inculcated with the government propaganda, like "majority rules", and "pay your fair share". WHERE are the words "fair share" in the Constitution, Bill of Rights or the Internal Revenue Code (Title 26)?? NO WHERE is "fair share" even suggested !! The philosophical concept of "fair share" comes from the Communist maxim, "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need! This concept is pure socialism. ... America was made the greatest society by its private initiative WORK ETHIC ... Teaching ourselves and others how to "fish" to be self sufficient and produce plenty of EXTRA commodities to if so desired could be shared with others who might be "needy"... Americans have always voluntarily been the MOST generous and charitable society on the planet.

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5. Centralization of credit in the hands of the state, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly. Americans call it the Federal Reserve which is a privately-owned credit/debt system allowed by the Federal Reserve act of 1913. All local banks are members of the Fed system, and are regulated by the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC) another privately-owned corporation. The Federal Reserve Banks issue Fiat Paper Money and practice economically destructive fractional reserve banking.

6. Centralization of the means of communications and transportation in the hands of the State. Americans call it the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) and Department of Transportation (DOT) mandated through the ICC act of 1887, the Commissions Act of 1934, The Interstate Commerce Commission established in 1938, The Federal Aviation Administration, Federal Communications Commission, and Executive orders 11490, 10999, as well as State mandated driver's licenses and Department of Transportation regulations.

7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the state, the bringing into cultivation of waste lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan. Americans call it corporate capacity, The Desert Entry Act and The Department of Agriculture… Thus read "controlled or subsidized" rather than "owned"… This is easily seen in these as well as the Department of Commerce and Labor, Department of Interior, the Environmental Protection Agency, Bureau of Land Management, Bureau of Reclamation, Bureau of Mines, National Park Service, and the IRS control of business through corporate regulations.

8. Equal liability of all to labor. Establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture. Americans call it Minimum Wage and slave labor like dealing with our Most Favored Nation trade partner; i.e. Communist China. We see it in practice via the Social Security Administration and The Department of Labor. The National debt and inflation caused by the communal bank has caused the need for a two "income" family. Woman in the workplace since the 1920's, the 19th amendment of the U.S. Constitution, the Civil Rights Act of 1964, assorted Socialist Unions, affirmative action, the Federal Public Works Program and of course Executive order 11000.

9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries, gradual abolition of the distinction between town and country, by a more equitable distribution of population over the country. Americans call it the Planning Reorganization act of 1949 , zoning (Title 17 1910-1990) and Super Corporate Farms, as well as Executive orders 11647, 11731 (ten regions) and Public "law" 89-136. These provide for forced relocations and forced sterilization programs, like in China.

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Are you familiar with the 10 planks of the Communist manefesto? To save myself a lot of typing here is a C & P of it. See how many of them are already in place in the USA. Answer in 2 parts 1-4 *& 5-10

The 10 PLANKS stated in the Communist Manifesto and some of their American counterparts are...

1. Abolition of private property and the application of all rents of land to public purposes. Americans do these with actions such as the 14th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution (1868), and various zoning, school & property taxes. Also the Bureau of Land Management (Zoning laws are the first step to government property ownership)

2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax. Americans know this as misapplication of the 16th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, 1913, The Social Security Act of 1936.; Joint House Resolution 192 of 1933; and various State "income" taxes. We call it "paying your fair share".

3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance. Americans call it Federal & State estate Tax (1916); or reformed Probate Laws, and limited inheritance via arbitrary inheritance tax statutes.

4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels. Americans call it government seizures, tax liens, Public "law" 99-570 (1986); Executive order 11490, sections 1205, 2002 which gives private land to the Department of Urban Development; the imprisonment of "terrorists" and those who speak out or write against the "government" (1997 Crime/Terrorist Bill); or the IRS confiscation of property without due process. Asset forfeiture laws are used by DEA, IRS, ATF etc...).

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Should have said that the bank will loan you money you probably can't repay, knowingly...

They come and take your cow back, and re sell it at a loan rate and terms the next person can't afford. Or tell you that your cow is safe, and going to yield a few calves soon. You go back and all the cows are missing, the banker says, "what cows, the ones that ran away and committed suicide"?

And some guy is getting rich selling you bullshit and milk and meat to the ones that can afford it.and cheap cuts of meat with labels saying prime beef.

Where is your tax analogy in relation to those cows?

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tbr,

Please don't construe this response as contrite but if you look at what the governmental / financial constructs are for socialism it fairly well matches his performance and plans as he states them and ultimate goal. I answer this way to avoid an ideological tug of war. Take a look at a resource of your choosing which compares socialism, communism, and capitalism as a place to start.

The standard simplistic version goes something like this:

SOCIALISM: You have two cows. The government takes them and puts them in a barn with everyone else's cows. You have to take care of all the cows. The government gives you a glass of milk.

COMMUNISM: You share two cows with your neighbors. You and your neighbors bicker about who has the most "ability" and who has the most "need". Meanwhile, no one works, no one gets any milk,and the cows drop dead of starvation.

CAPITALISM: You don't have any cows. The bank will not lend you money to buy cows, because you don't have any cows to put up as collateral.

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always:

"With regard to your personal abuse, that explains a lot to me about your style and mindset here. I highly recommend seeking out a trained counselor of some ilk and embark on the road to healing. Failure to do so will continually allow the trauma to color your would and impede your growth. But it's your life if what you're doing is working well for you keep going. If it's not working well consider trying something different of nothing will change for you."

Funny, how does one on minimum wage afford such luxuries? Oh yes, counseling is a luxury, not a necessity. There for sound economics dictate that the CC isn't used as I cannot repay such a debt earning only the minimum and without health benefits.

There for if think my voting record is as a result of my past and you want me to get help for it... You will have to enable me, the minimum wage earner to get it on your dime as my dimes are all used to just survive the hell your side create.

Make no mistake, your side created the hell by creating a society that requires both parents to work full time and neither able to provide proper parenting for their children. The majority aren't able to juggle both full time work and child rearing, so save us your personal success stories. A society built upon the ability of the minority is a society primed for radical (let us hope not violent) change... and not towards the minorities side. (minority side being your own side)

"(I highly doubt... we Americans would nuke ourselves in such a civil war).

I don't think we will nuke ourselves into a civil war either. As far as socialism is concerned, Jerry S Obam is clearly running a socialist agenda that is his training and track record."

I failed to type into my statement not between would and nuke. It should have read as below.

I highly doubt... we Americans would not nuke ourselves in such a civil war.

The reason I believe that we would nuke our selves is simple. When we fight, it is for keeps and both sides will not be merciful to the other, both will see the other as traitors and both will not care for the deaths of the other side.

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After that answer...

Please tell us how he is communist and socialist at the same time. Did he create a new form of government using socialism, communism, and democracy?

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Ok, always, I'll play...

What exactly is socialist about Obama's agenda?

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Hil,

"(I highly doubt... we Americans would nuke ourselves in such a civil war)."

I don't think we will nuke ourselves into a civil war either. As far as socialism is concerned, Jerry S Obam is clearly running a socialist agenda that is his training and track record.

With regard to your personal abuse, that explains a lot to me about your style and mindset here. I highly recommend seeking out a trained counselor of some ilk and embark on the road to healing. Failure to do so will continually allow the trauma to color your would and impede your growth. But it's your life if what you're doing is working well for you keep going. If it's not working well consider trying something different of nothing will change for you.

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We do not face hard times ahead, only an end to soft ones.

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