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You seem a little defensive Angel. What's the big deal, you don't want to share your spiritual outlook with a human monster? Come on man it's not that serious, there are plenty of "Christians" who had done terrible things, Just because Hitler may have shared some of your belief system, doesn't reflect on how you live your life does it?

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Why are ya trying so hard to prove that Hitler was a Christian? I mean do you think that he would have had any chance of gaining any kind of international support for his madness had he came out and railed against religion, especially Christianity? Sounds like a typical politician saying one thing to one crowd then saying something else to another. His actions should show that he was anything but Christian, of course that would depend on your view of Christians to begin with. BTW Christ was a Rabbi in the Jewish faith, he never called himself a Christian. That religion was established well after his death.

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Maybe Hitler understood that he needed to maintain "public relations" and used divisions between Christians and Jews to his advantage. Hitler was not a Christian, he may have been a Hypocrite. This sounds more likely than him being a "devote" Christian.

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Any one who allows what hitler allowed and in the face of God was not a christian. He used God as the Islamofascist are using their God as an excuse for murder.Sorry dont subscibe to that particular religion. Hitler was a liar and a hypocrite and used religion to suite his needs for power. Nothing Christian about that.

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"Religion is a distraction the riecht we can not afford, our conquests will crumble if religion is allowed to forment and will become a burden on our nation".

Adolf Hitler 1939

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Which is why the "Christian Riecht" is such an absurd concept. It's an oxymoron. But the young college kids, who tend to skip history class or else have it taught to them by professors who prefer history books that reflect their own views, would never see the absurdity in making statements like that. Anyone who had studied Hitler and his sick and twisted mind and actions, could not compare any U.S political party or politician to this man. He was pure evil who sought to kill an entire race of people. The Right in this country may have many faults, but they don't even begin to approach the level of danger that the 3rd Reicht posed. At worst they can be annoying and separated from the mainstream, much like the left in many ways, but they also fuel many of the values that drives our military. You can't take Christianity out of the U.S Military, it is a core component of the American Value system. The Left seems bent on either molding Christians into a PC image or railing against "Organized Religion" when Christians stick to their guns and stand up for their beliefs. Of course you don't hear many "Organized Religion" protesters criticizing Islam. I guess it's easy to act tough when you don't have to fear a "Fatoh" being put on your ass..........

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(continued.....) 19th October, 1941, night:

"The reason why the ancient world was so pure, light and serene was that it knew nothing of the two great scourges: the pox and Christianity."

21st October, 1941, midday:

"Originally, Christianity was merely an incarnation of Bolshevism, the destroyer.... The decisive falsification of Jesus' doctrine was the work of St.Paul. He gave himself to this work... for the purposes of personal exploitation.... Didn't the world see, carried on right into the Middle Ages, the same old system of martyrs, tortures, faggots? Of old, it was in the name of Christianity. Today, it's in the name of Bolshevism. Yesterday the instigator was Saul: the instigator today, Mardochai. Saul was changed into St.Paul, and Mardochai into Karl Marx. By exterminating this pest, we shall do humanity a service of which our soldiers can have no idea."

13th December, 1941, midnight:

"Christianity is an invention of sick brains: one could imagine nothing more senseless, nor any more indecent way of turning the idea of the Godhead into a mockery.... .... When all is said, we have no reason to wish that the Italians and Spaniards should free themselves from the drug of Christianity. Let's be the only people who are immunised against the disease."

14th December, 1941, midday:

"Kerrl, with noblest of intentions, wanted to attempt a synthesis between National Socialism and Christianity. I don't believe the thing's possible, and I see the obstacle in Christianity itself.... Pure Christianity-- the Christianity of the catacombs-- is concerned with translating Christian doctrine into facts. It leads quite simply to the annihilation of mankind. It is merely whole-hearted Bolshevism, under a tinsel of metaphysics."

9th April, 1942, dinner:

"There is something very unhealthy about Christianity."

27th February, 1942, midday:

"It would always be disagreeable for me to go down to posterity as a man who made concessions in this field. I realize that man, in his imperfection, can commit innumerable errors-- but to devote myself deliberately to errors, that is something I cannot do. I shall never come personally to terms with the Christian lie. Our epoch Uin the next 200 yearse will certainly see the end of the disease of Christianity.... My regret will have been that I couldn't... behold ." --------------------------------------------------------------------- I think Joe is correct, Hitler rejected Christianity and according to many historians Hitler became obsessed with the Occult.

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Angel,

I have to disagree. When I was growing up, my Elementary, Junior High and High School all taught that Hitler was born into a Roman Catholic environment, but as a young man rejected same. Approximately 2 years ago one of my fellow Masters students, who was working on her Masters in International Relations, did a paper on Hitler. I went through my notes of her oral & power point presentation and used the book references and found these quotes by Hitler:

The book "Hitler's Secret Conversations" 1941-1944 published by Farrar, Straus and Young, Inc., first edition, 1953. The book was published in Britain under the title, "Hitler's Table Talk 1941-1944". This is also the title of the Oxford University Press paperback edition in the United States.

All of these are quotes from Adolf Hitler:

Night of 11th-12th July, 1941:

"National Socialism and religion cannot exist together.... The heaviest blow that ever struck humanity was the coming of Christianity. Bolshevism is Christianity's illegitimate child. Both are inventions of the Jew. The deliberate lie in the matter of religion was introduced into the world by Christianity.... Let it not be said that Christianity brought man the life of the soul, for that evolution was in the natural order of things."

10th October, 1941, midday:

"Christianity is a rebellion against natural law, a protest against nature. Taken to its logical extreme, Christianity would mean the systematic cultivation of the human failure."

14th October, 1941, midday:

"The best thing is to let Christianity die a natural death.... When understanding of the universe has become widespread... Christian doctrine will be convicted of absurdity.... Christianity has reached the peak of absurdity.... And that's why someday its structure will collapse.... ...the only way to get rid of Christianity is to allow it to die little by little.... Christianity the liar.... We'll see to it that the Churches cannot spread abroad teachings in conflict with the interests of the State."

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Ya know Hitler actually hated Christianity. So I find the 3rd Reicht comparisons kinda funny. He was an Atheist who dabbled in the occult.......

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.......touche'

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