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But you made a good point and helped me show my point of view on the whole Promote the General welfare thing I think if you think about it, it makes sense.

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Wasn't it Jefferson who said

"A coop full of chickens on every farm, a mule in every barn, and a delivery of grain to every household"? Doent say anything about monthly...Its a one time offer what you do with it is up to you.

And all promote the General welfare, Chickens reproduce and provide food giving the farmer an access to earn, A mule will promote growth in the fields by providing work and by helping the farmer produce more for the nation to buy, promoting growth, And Grain again Oppertunity to grow more food to privide a farmer the oppertunity to produce more bread to feed his house hold for generations to come

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Tort thats not it...If we truely Promote the General Welfare of this country there would be no need for Food Stamps. I know it sounds like a line but its actually fact. Those to be cared for should be out of government system, ie. Mentally and physically handicapped and the elderly should recieve the care they need from the private sector. I dont want people to starve this is my point, If the government was true to its calling the would be no need for Food stamps or anything else.

Promoting the General welfare was for oppertunity and growth, not citizens addiction and poverty...

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Thomas Jefferson believed in tax money being used to support the poor, as did Thomas Paine. The US government gave away land to those willing to live and work on it in the Homestead Act back in the 19th century.

This sounds like an investment not welfare. Giving oppertunity not a free ride. the words Live and work are words that debunk Comminism and or socialism. By giving land to work was an investment in the nation thus not a handout. Big differance. Promoting the General Welfare has NOTHING to do with food stamps and everything to do with strangthaning America as a whole and not the individual.

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Ask the American Indians about "the spirit of kindness"? Ask them how government welfare has promoted general welfare? Actually General Welfare would be correct in their case, because many Indians who live on reservations are on government welfare. Not to mention the Alcoholism and drug abuse rates are higher on reservations, probably higher than any where else in the world. Our government had killed their pride and pacified them with free money. The only way some had managed to break free was to take the government to court for the right to open their own business and bring companies and jobs to Indian Land. They pulled themselves out of the gutter, a gutter that the government kept them in. So save your founding fathers speech, they didn't know everything they were just as human as you or I. People can only rely on themselves to raise themselves up from poverty and despair. The opportunities are out there and hungry people are taking advantage of them every day. You can't share wealth or create happiness, those are things people have to get on their own.

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Ronald Reagan loved quoting John Winthrop's "Model of Christian Charity" address, which he gave on board ship to the Puritans on their way to settle in America. Winthrop called upon the rich to be charitable to the poor, calling upon them to "abridge themselves of their superfluities [or luxuries] for the supply of others necessities."

Thomas Jefferson believed in tax money being used to support the poor, as did Thomas Paine. The US government gave away land to those willing to live and work on it in the Homestead Act back in the 19th century.

Do you want to call Winthrop, Jefferson, Paine socialists and the Homestead Act, which helped settle the West, an act of socialism.

The Constitution, in its Premable, articulates as one of the pruposes of government to "promote the general welfare."

Promoting the general welfare is constitutional not communistic. You should try truly conserving the tradition that this country is built upon: the quest to form a more perfect union governed by a spirit of kindness.

I'm an atheist and I am more Christian than you are in your politics. To follow the politics of Jesus Christ is to care for the poor, the weak, the oppressed.

What a hypocritical Christian you are!!!!!!!! Do you look upon Christ as a socialist?

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What the lib's of today are doing is buying the poor peoples vote by giving away money to them, that is socialism no matter how you try to hide it. Karl Marx tried it and it failed, this is America not communist Russia so stop trying to make it that. Osama and hitlary are socialist, if you want to destroy this country elect either one of the bums.

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DestinFla:

Do you believe the federal government should be used to promote the general welfare?

Do you believe the Constitution of 1787 is grounded in moral justice and the word of God?

Do you believe that Thomas Jefferson and Thomas Paine would have supported poor relief or what we call safety net or social security policies such as food stamps and support for the elderly?

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THE REST>Ronald Reagan was constantly opposed by the Modern Democrat Party Leadership, and often characterized as a 'Warmonger and Hater' soley because Reagan was not willing to permit the Sovietization in the Western Hemisphere remain unchallenged as it had under the leadership of the Democrat Party Liberal Socialists, and their fellow apologists and pacifists who today have been in control for decades of many American institutions i.e., ..The Mainstream Media News Networks, The Public School educational structure and NEA, Hollywood and its Entertainment Networks, Publishers of large city newspapers i.e., The New York Times, The L.A. Times, The Boston Herald, The U.S.A.Today, and monthly Magazines such as 'Time Magazine, U.S. News & World Report, and Newsweek'.

Many of their feature stories and their staff writers all plug the same lines of that of the Modern Liberal Establishment today, and the Democrat Party Liberal Modernists, and share and are consumed with its similiar core 'LIBERAL SOCIALIST' ideology base.

American readers are graced BY THEM continually with:

a. America's founding fathers were liars, cheats, and exploiters.

b. America's founding was illegal and immoral, and based on pure racism.

c. Republican Conservatives are destroying your rights and freedoms.

d. Republicans 'only' are corrupt and evil.

e. The wealthy and successful are corrupt, and exploit the poor in America. (Modern Liberals are always exempt however )

f. American freedom and liberty is not inclusive to all.

g. The poor in America are the results of American Capitalism, racism, hatred, and intolerance.

h. Opportunity exists only for the wealthy.

i. Its up to the Government to provide jobs for the jobless, and the Governments responsibility to provide for those in need.

j. Religious intolerance by Christians in America is of endemic proportions.

k. God exists only in the minds of those wishing to control and exploit the masses.

l. Social justice and equality can be achieved only through the forced redistribution of wealth in America.

m. The Pledge of Allegiance in America should be outlawed as discriminatory, racist, intolerant, and injurious to those of different culture beliefs.

n. Nobody has the right to define what immorality or obscenity is, or should pass any laws regarding such.

o. Select races and ethnicities need special legislated Rights and Protections just for them, as do the same sex advocates because they are unjustly being discriminted against.

p. Outward signs of Nationalism and Patriotism in America should be banned because its intolerant and disrespectful to those 'victims' IN and BY America who do not share those views.

q. The American Military is just a tool of the elite wealthy who wish to subjugate, and exploit the poor nations.

r. The International World Court should have dominion and legal sovereignty over the American Courts so real justice can be served against the evil wealthy American exploiters, and for the prosecution of criminal American Government officials.

s. The United Nations should be the final arbitrator in dispensing trade and economic policies, setting interest rates, declaring and identifying hostile nations, and in dispersing all foreign economic aid to the nations that they see fit, and the collecting and taxing of wealthy nations, and making them pay fair reparations for those deemed as exploited and stolen from by the former American and British Colonialists.

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How could such a thing have happened, whereas former 'Classical Liberal Virtues' such as the firm belief in God, Country, Moral Values, Individual Liberty, and Personal Freedom that became so hijacked, and so perverted by an intolerant band of coercive Leftist Modern Liberal Fascists?

Today they are well represented in the Modern Democrat Party Congressional Leadership, throwbacks from a 1960's era of a spoiled generational children who were well provided for by their parents, given the best educations, the best opportunities, and graced with as much materialism that their parents could afford, and sometimes could not afford.

These Modern Liberal Fascists share no such resemblances to Classical Liberalism, or the old Democrat Party structure. In fact, the contemporary Democrat Party Fascist Modernists of today demand the control of people, thoughts, markets, perceptions, and seek to increase the power, and size of the Government over everybodys lives.

They have subverted the truth regarding the founding fathers of America and the Constitution and its history, in an effort to re-interpret the Constitution, and to slowly transform America into a 'Collectivist State' apparatus for the so called 'Betterment of the Working Classes' that today sounds more reminiscent of Marxist symbolism than it does of honorable old classical liberal values.

Over the decades America has witnessed a bankrupt amoral and hostile attitude from 'The Democrat Party Left' for any forces in America who advocated, or dared oppose the world-wide Communist/Socialist/Marxist scourge that thought to impose itself all over the World, and within the sphere of the North American continent.

Modern Democrat Party Liberal Socialists, their Liberal Activist Courts, their friendly Communist Agitators and Litigators in the anti-American A.C.L.U., the Liberal Socialist Academia intelligencia, and even the leftovers from the Communist Party U.S.A.

It is my belief that 'IF' the American people at large knew of the depth and scope of the REAL belief systems of the Modern Democrat Party Liberal Socialists, and their attempted sedition, and their identified domestic bedfellows, and their international connections ..they would seldom win any national elections in America.

Is it any wonder whatsoever as to 'why' many Modern Liberal Socialists, and some of their select Democrat Party Congressional masters LUST to control the Internet, and its information flow today?

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