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Editorials represent the views of The Washington Post as an institution, as determined through debate among members of the editorial board. News reporters and editors never contribute to editorial board discussions, and editorial board members don’t have any role in news coverage.

IN MARCH, the Republican-led legislature of Pennsylvania passed a law that will require voters to present valid photo IDs to receive ballots. As inherently suspicious as this measure was from the start, the full magnitude of its potential effect became clear only last week, when state officials released data revealing that approximately 9 percent of the state’s 8.2 million registered voters — many of whom have voted regularly for years — lack any such identification. Come November, more than 758,000 people could be barred from the polls. That would be a crime against democracy.

In the same vein as other measures recently enacted in states such as Indiana and Texas — where the Justice Department rightly struck down a proposed restriction — Pennsylvania’s law was originally presented as a means of combating alleged voter fraud. Although fraud of any kind has no place in the functioning of a proper democracy, there’s hardly any evidence that it’s a threat. As reported in Rolling Stone last fall, of the 300 million votes cast between 2002 and 2007, federal investigators charged only 86 individuals with any type of fraud — and the vast majority of these cases concerned ex-felons and immigrants ignorant of their own eligibility. Not one person was convicted for impersonating another at the polls.

In practice, then, whom are these laws excluding? By and large, all evidence suggests that they discourage participation among poor, minority and younger voters — groups that tend to support Democratic candidates. Unfortunately, in the case of Pennsylvania, the political motivation behind the new law isn’t even subtle. Last month, the state’s House Republican leader Mike Turzai included it in a checklist of conservative legislative accomplishments. As he told an audience to resounding applause: “Voter ID, which is going to allow .?.?. [presidential candidate Mitt] Romney to win the state of Pennsylvania, done.” It’s troubling to think that there are lawmakers in this country who genuinely wish to exclude fellow citizens from the polls solely for political reasons.

Pennsylvania has said that other forms of photo identification, including U.S. passports, military identification and student IDs, will be acceptable in addition to driver’s licenses and the non-driver PennDot IDs. However, as the driver’s license is the primary form of identification for many, these alternatives are unlikely to bring many of the excluded 9 percent back into the fold. The state’s chapter of the American Civil Liberties Union has rightly sued, arguing that the law violates the state’s constitution by depriving certain citizens of a fundamental constitutional right, the right to vote.

The courts should listen and issue an injunction that prevents the enforcement of this law before the November election. The rising trend of voting restrictions must be stopped.

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An interesting PARTIAL list of voter suppression offenses committed by republikans since 2004. Seems all the real serious voter fraud, fraud on an industrial scale, is actually happening.

This shit's been going on a long time....

- This summer, Michigan state Rep. John Pappageorge (R-Troy) was quoted in the Detroit Free Press as saying, “If we do not suppress the Detroit vote, we're going to have a tough time in this election.” African Americans comprise 83% of Detroit’s population. - In South Dakota’s June 2004 primary, Native American voters were prevented from voting after they were challenged to provide photo IDs, which they were not required to present under state or federal law. - In Kentucky in July 2004, Black Republican officials joined to ask their State GOP party chairman to renounce plans to place “vote challengers” in African-American precincts during the coming elections. - Earlier this year in Texas, a local district attorney claimed that students at a majority black college were not eligible to vote in the county where the school is located. It happened in Waller County – the same county where 26 years earlier, a federal court order was required to prevent discrimination against the students. - In 2003 in Philadelphia, voters in African American areas were systematically challenged by men carrying clipboards, driving a fleet of some 300 sedans with magnetic signs designed to look like law enforcement insignia. - In 2002 in Louisiana, flyers were distributed in African American communities telling voters they could go to the polls on Tuesday, December 10th – three days after a Senate runoff election was actually held. - In 1998 in South Carolina, a state representative mailed 3,000 brochures to African American neighborhoods, claiming that law enforcement agents would be “working” the election, and warning voters that “this election is not worth going to jail.”

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"5% voter fraud with registered democrats in Cumberland county"

Can't find a thing. I DID find this and it mentions Cumberland Co. in a not very flattering light.....

//archive.fairvote.o rg/righttovote/PFAW-NAACP.pdf

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"We found 5% voter fraud with registered democrats in Cumberland county. That fraud consisted of registered democrats that voted in 2008 that did not exist other than their votes. I doubt that Cumberland county was the only county with this anomaly. "

Oh, I know it's fruitless to ask for a citation, but prove it! ... if you can.

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fj

every major poll in last six months says you are a bald faced liar.

Once again.

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WAGER:

Most of these attempts at voter suppression will be stopped, restrained or ruled unconstitutional by the state courts (based on state constitutions) before November.

Nice try though...

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IF you actually read the information instead of flapping your gums you would have seen that most of those polled thought they DID have the proper ID.

But don't let facts get in the way of a good ol' neo-tard circle jerk...

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I have only seen a couple wacky libs on here pissing and moaning about voter ID. IMO if all voter fraud is eliminated the democratic party would have a very small footprint, and it scares the libtards. We found 5% voter fraud with registered democrats in Cumberland county. That fraud consisted of registered democrats that voted in 2008 that did not exist other than their votes. I doubt that Cumberland county was the only county with this anomaly.

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People who aren't smart enough to get an ID are democrats.

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Exactly, so what are the liberal whining about? what is their issue? What is the purpose of encouraging/advocating/supporting an illegal election?

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"Someone please tell me, what is the difficulty in obtaining an actual legal id? what is the problem? "

None that I know of, though most states have passed laws that a person cannot get a DL unless they are a citizen or a legal alien. Here they must have two documents upon their initial visit. After that it is not needed for renewal. COB are easy to get for just about anywhere in the US, and can be obtained by mail. Less documentation is needed to get a photo ID than there is to get a job in most cases.

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