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Sexy, Warren Buffet last week said that we should keep the oil and gas we produce all to our selves. Let every body else fend for themselves. But in the same breath we should also buy some from other sources just to keep money flowing. We are almost energy independent and BTW some of those restrictions and regulations work to keep our workers, air and water as safe as possible and we need some of those regulations to make sure somebody doesn't get an unfair advantage. We will use all the technology to create new jobs and ones that make our economy grow.

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By George, Bobbie, I think you have found your natural level of competence. Garbage Truck Operator. Is that a fancy way of saying Garbage Truck Driver? Or are you referring to the guy hanging on the back of the truck who feeds the garbage from the garbage cans into the garbage truck? That could work for your level of proven competence, too, especially perfect because of your tolerance for such high comfort levels for the stench of socialist bullshit. Those jobs probably pay about $15/hour, too.

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Correct, RDY, and it's world economy, now, and we have find ways to compete with cheap foreign labor. Thank God we have become competitive again with the discovery of inexpensive means of pumping oil and gas, and are no longer dependent of the Arabian Oil Cartels. While cheap energy may keep us competitive overall cost wise, and will open some room for labor cost increases, all by itself, at least so far, it won't make us able to increase labor pay all that much. We will have to continue to depend on technology for the rest.

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PD, you're right. one of my oldest sons high school class mates went to college, graduated and couldn't find a job teaching. So in order to make things meet he took a job with UPS. He has since retired from UPS with an excellent retirement benefit package and is enjoying his retirement picking up odd jobs when he wants to do and he even goes back to UPS during their busy seasons to help out.

I can't understand people when they say there are no jobs out there. From what I can see there are plenty of jobs in this economy. Maybe they think they are worth more than $20.00 an hour with no experience. They need to know that this is a new economy that is growing and the economy of yesteryear is to far gone.

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Ok, the next time you want dentist work done, go talk to a garbage truck operator.

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"I can return to college..."

I know a lot of thirty to forty year olds that keep going back to college because they can't find jobs. They have degrees, and insist on nothing less than twenty dollars an hour, but have no experience in any work whatsoever. So, good luck with that.

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VAB, I can't agree with you more on the value of getting to the area where the problem is, and talking with and getting advice from the guys who work that job I every day. And another thing I agree with: Mutual respect brings about a rapport that enables positive conversation devoted to solutions rather than playing a blame game. Worked for me, too.

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Whatever you say Robert.

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Justus:

Now take that greenhorn, and make him disabled before be has any skills. What does he do to survive and provide for his family?

If I become disabled after my college, I can return to college and grab the research and development, or even enter into sales of said technology. Which is also an area that I can enter into for employment with my skills.

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I'm probably going to regret this, but....

Your statement that engineers don't know anything that's not in a book is a pervasive opinion among employees in the field and is beyond idiotic. It is a major barrier when it comes to solving problems, as field employees and their scientific colleagues can accomplish great things when they work together and respect what the other brings to the table. "Usually" applies to everything I'm about to say.

What those in the field bring to the table: Practical experience and loads of observational data.

What those in the field do NOT bring to the table: An understanding of WHY things work the way they do and an appreciation for the fact that changing results means that SOMETHING changed in the conditions. Generally, their reasons are based on fucking with stuff until something works, and then when it does they conclude that what they did last is what fixed it. "Everything was exactly the same - sometimes it just doesn't work." they'll say. "NO. If the result changed, SOMETHING changed in the conditions. It could be something you don't know about, or don't think is important, or is beyond your control, but SOMETHING is different." They scoff at this and their refusal to accept it causes great problems with the problem-solving. They think they understand the reasons for what happens, but most of the time, they don't.

What scientific support brings to the table: Scientific approach to problem-solving and a strong understanding of the science behind the process involved.

What scientific support does NOT bring to the table: Practical experience and an understanding of the value that a lot of observations from field staff can provide. I fully appreciate this problem and I worked hard to overcome it.

When I worked my last plant job, I would make sure I would get out into the plant itself for 1/2 a day a week, talk with the staff about problems they had, and watch what they do, and sometimes do it myself. There is great value is learning what the field staff do, both in terms of gaining an appreciation for the problems they face but also to make them feel like I am accessible as a resource to add to their team when they do have problems. It took a long time for them to eventually begin to come to me with questions about what they were doing. I was really happy it eventually happened, because the communication between field and scientific support was near-zero when I came in (other than each just simply telling the other what to do).

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