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The Fordgerald was a particularly slow ship.

p.s. for those who don't know, the "reportable quantity" does not mean that having that much is dangerous, it just means that quantities over it must be reported to the relevant authorities. Chemical plants routinely house quantities above the reporting thresholds.

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So what exactly did they think was stored at a fertilizer plant? Infant formula?

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There, their they're Mark.

I've heard both Ella Fitzgerald, and F. Scott Fitzgerald confused as the name of the Edmund Fitzgerald.

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"A person familiar with DHS operations said the company that owns the plant, West Fertilizer, did not tell the agency about the potentially explosive fertilizer as it is required to do, leaving one of the principal regulators of ammonium nitrate - which can also be used in bomb making - unaware of any danger there."

"Fertilizer plants and depots must report to the DHS when they hold 400 lb (180 kg) or more of the substance. Filings this year with the Texas Department of State Health Services, which weren't shared with DHS, show the plant had 270 tons of it on hand last year"

I find it a little odd that the DHS was not aware of a fertilizer plant storing fertilizer...... so they were reporting it to the Texas government, just not the feds. Dummies ... that's so easy to do....

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VA the ship was long compared to her width, and she did break in two. There are disagreements whether she broke on the surface or as she descended. There also was reports from a former crew member that she had structural damage before the sinking.

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I always thought it was that the ship was too long and got suspended between two waves. "Lakers" have different length/width ratios because waves in the Great Lakes do not get as big as in the open ocean, and their length is generally limited to the size of the locks they are built to traverse.

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Fj: See the Coast Guard report as to why she sank. I was a Unit Safety Officer and we had that report in a file. Complete disregard for any and all standard procedures. The crew felt the weight of the cargo hatches alone would hold the hatches secure. The crew took no steps to dog them down. The waves of the storm dislodge them. Once they were loose and no longer covering the holds, waves quickly filled the holds with water.

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There are a lot of theories on why the EF sank, IMO she would have sank eventually. I believe they pulled her sister ship in 1980 and scrapped her. They both were welded ships, instead of riveted, too slender for the length. The storm just brought about her demise sooner.

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Ah shit. Gotta laugh. Got the name of the ship wrong....

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Mari:

Maybe those more skilled union members would like it better with two camps, exile the lesser skilled and create a divide which won't be mended? Then when the skilled laborers are all used up, and the unskilled are now skilled, the boss can make the skilled work harder and fire the unskilled because both unions are fighting each other and not greedy corporate excecatives, investors and businessmen who would drain every penny they can from their own mothers if they could get away with it.

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