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User Details are only visible to members.	Fjep: I commented on Sedu bitching about these companies being allowed to hang themselves, despite the rules which were laid down for them to follow. Obama gave them rules to follow and the rope needed to go well beyond those rules and hang themselves. That is what I have been commenting on. Capitalism alone leads to the self-destruction of all things as it is greed without controls. Obama is simply allowing us all to see this by not arresting these CEOs and other for fraud waste and abuse of the tax payers money which bailed them out of bad times. Obama is setting these companies up for another Monopoly breakup.
Hazle Township PA			Username hidden (4842 post)

User Details are only visible to members.	Are you for government regulation or not? Suddenly when companies that are running on tax payer money are breaking the rules set out for them, and Obama clearly does nothing, YOU want to stick your head in the sand. Make up your fucking mind.
Sanford NC			Username hidden (18796 post)

User Details are only visible to members.	fjep: I have stated that companies who engage in greed such as what is being discussed here ought not be bailed out, ought not be given tax breaks... You would be hard pressed to find a post where I blatently state that the government ought to control their actions directly. Companies, (any) which are so large as to cause damage to the economy as AIG could have, ought to be broken up into multiple companies as they are a monopoly. If they weren't a monopoly, they would have no major affect or effect on the nations economy or the worlds economy.
Hazle Township PA			Username hidden (4842 post)

User Details are only visible to members.	NOW all of a sudden Bobby thinks companies should be able to run their company without government interference. LMFAO!
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User Details are only visible to members.	azqt: Obama's failure? To do what exactly? Dictate to a company how to operate? The president of the US isn't the president of a company... I thought you wanted the federal government out of the way of businesses? I thought you wanted less federal control? These companies were bailed out, and then given a long rope to hang themselves with... Which they promptly have done, proving that they cannot contain their greed... They can't even curb it.
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User Details are only visible to members.	Yep, another obama failure.
Peoria AZ			Username hidden (2291 post)

User Details are only visible to members.	And your point is what exactly? That the government isn't preventing the companies from deciding for themselves how much and what to pay their people? That the government isn't being restrictive enough? eccentrically socialist enough?
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User Details are only visible to members.	In December, the Treasury sold the last of its common stock in AIG and said it plans to sell its remaining shares in automaker GM in the next year or so, leaving Ally as the last major company that still owes the government under TARP. The acting pay czar, Patricia Geoghegan, said her office achieved its mission, cutting average cash compensation for the top 25 executives at bailed-out companies from what they were getting prior to the TARP bailout. In 2011 and 2012, the office also froze pay for the chief executives of General Motors, AIG, and Ally Financial. But last year, Romero's office found pressure from financial institutions undermined efforts to limit executive pay at bailed-out companies, especially as some Treasury officials were more concerned with getting TARP funds back than in limiting pay. Romero said the situation has worsened since then. Contrary to recommendations the inspector general made last year, the pay czar's office has not developed procedures for how to decide compensation or when to determine high salaries are warranted. "Without developing some criteria ... Treasury put itself in a position of essentially letting the companies drive what pay Treasury was approving," she said. Under the rules governing pay for TARP recipients, cash salaries are supposed to rarely exceed $500,000. But in 2012, 70 percent of the top executives at TARP recipients overseen by the government had cash salaries of $500,000 or more, a number that has quadrupled since 2009, the report said. Ninety-four percent got cash compensation of $450,000 or more. Romero said in one situation, the Treasury approved a pay raise of $50,000 for one GM employee because the company wanted to "do a little extra for him." "This shows the complete lack of appreciation that GM has for the fact that they're owned by taxpayers, and that Americans are in tight budgets and don't have any extra (funds)," she said. In another case, the pay czar approved a $200,000 pay raise for an employee of Residential Capital LLC, the bankrupt mortgage lending unit of Ally, despite knowing the unit was about to go bankrupt. Romero said the government's pay curbs were unlikely to have a lasting impact. The report found it likely AIG will return to its "past practices" in setting high executive compensation now that it has repaid the government's TARP funds. "The responsibility shifts to the Federal Reserve Board to ensure that AIG does not encourage excessive risk taking through compensation," the report said.
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User Details are only visible to members.	WASHINGTON, Jan 28 (Reuters) - The U.S. Treasury Department failed to curb executive pay last year for the second year running at companies rescued by the government, an internal watchdog charged on Monday. The Treasury's pay czar, or "special master," was tasked with limiting "excessive" pay at companies the government bailed out using taxpayer money during the financial crisis. But the Office of the Special Master did not follow the rules it had set for compensation, instead letting companies define pay themselves, according to a report by the inspector general for the government's bailout program. In 2012, the pay czar acceded to company requests in approving multi-million dollar pay packages and pay hikes for top executives at General Motors, AIG and Ally Financial. The pay czar approved all 18 pay raises requested by the companies, for a total of $6.2 million, and approved pay packages of at least $1 million for 68 of the 69 employees at the companies it was overseeing, the report found. "While taxpayers struggle to overcome the recent financial crisis and look to the U.S. government to put a lid on compensation for executives of firms whose missteps nearly crippled the U.S. financial system, the U.S. Department of the Treasury continues to allow excessive executive pay," the report said. Special Inspector General Christy Romero said it was not surprising companies asked for large pay packages and higher pay. "But what we saw in 2012 that is somewhat different than prior years is that this time the companies pushed back on pay, but they seemed to have met no resistance," she said in an interview. Romero is tasked with overseeing the government's Troubled Asset Relief Program or TARP, which pumped $68 billion into AIG, $50 billion in GM and $17 billion in Ally Financial, among others, to save them from collapse during the 2007-2009 crisis.
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