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Great for you... Most every contractor I know, works the early fall, early spring and into the summer. Those who can't get jobs between middle fall and through winter get other jobs as they are unemployed.

As for what those who are unemployed do while unemployed... So long as they show up when career links contacts them with a job (temp or otherwise) I don't care. Their obligation is to show up for the job.

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Very few people in construction work a 2,000 hour years around here. Most either get another job in the winter, or collect unemployment while they sit on a frozen lake fishing, drinking beer, or while in the FL Keys, Mexico, etc., etc. Some work under the table cash side jobs while still collecting unemployment.

The modern check in with the Unemployment office by computer is to their adantage- they are supposed to "be available for work". When logging in from FL, to check on job availability in MN, the Unemployment office has no idea they are actually on a beach drinking beer, working for cash or staring at the walls at home.

The wages I posted are accurate. Straight from a contract.

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Either you are paying more than the median, to which I will thank you or you are lying.

Bls says the median roofer wage is $34,220 per year, $16.45 per hour

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Damn I really screwed myself by working in Texas all my life. The pay for the jobs you listed pay about 8 to 10 an hour in the 90's and might get you 10 to 12 today.


 
 
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Oops, and as a matter of fact, I just did tell that to the BLS. I'm required to report the wages I pay for each class of worker so they can update the site you just referenced.

Like I said, some of us actually live in the real world.

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LOL

I don't need to look at a website. I see the wage requirements every day- they're made a part of the contracts I have.

You forget- some of us work in the real world, NOT the virtual world.

BTW, the pay for a night watchman on a construction site is actually $40.30/hr. He gets to sit and watch to make sure no one tries to come on site and steal something, as well as to watch for fires.

A Roofer is $49.03, the Sheet Metal guy on the roofing crew is $59.93. A painter is $49.40, a bricklayer is $50.16, the elevator constructor is $73.19. These are base wages- a foreman or specific type of job may demand more money, and as is common, if you are better than the average guy, you get paid more.

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"The average pay for each hour of work is about $50 per hour of work. That of course is before taxes and insurance.

Unless they are working on highway/heavy work. You know, the jobs the government pays for. Those jobs pay significantly less for the same work performed on a building."

Tell that to the bureau of labor and statistics.

ht tp://ww w.bls.g ov/ooh/construction-and-extraction/roofers.h tm

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The average pay for each hour of work is about $50 per hour of work. That of course is before taxes and insurance.

Unless they are working on highway/heavy work. You know, the jobs the government pays for. Those jobs pay significantly less for the same work performed on a building.

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"..the average pay for a skilled construction worker here is about $50/hr..."

Are you averaging in those who don't have work? Or are they only "workers" who are currently working?

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"skillled

1.having skill; skillful 2.having or requiring an ability, as in a particular industrial occupation, gained by special experience or training

The definition of skilled is someone with a talent or ability.

(adjective) An example of a skilled person is an expert stone mason."

Some things can only be learned on the job, in the field, NOT in a classroom. Roofing is a skill.

The only unskilled people on a construction site (aside from the office staff) would be the gopher, the floor sweeper, and the night watchman.

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