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s42 deflection alert!!!

WTF does that have to do with Mittens being a lying sack of cat shit?

You underdo yourself dahling...very sweet getting you to hop though ;)

Stay ugly!!

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The BDS movement has been ripped apart by Norman Finklestein who is VERY anti Israel. The movement (for those in the know) is not just about simple boycotting divesting and sanctioning products made in the disputed territories, it is about isolating Israel and starving it until Jews start migrating out for a better life, leaving it to the palestinians. They support for instance violent resistance even though they don't flat out say it on their website. They've been caught numerous times trying to propagandize people with absolute distortions and lies. A good example is the perpetuating 'myth' of Mohammed al-Dura, the famous image of the boy who got shot and died in his dad's arms. For years, the palestinians tried to pass it as if IDF shot the boy in a cross fire. But after lenghty investigation and several trials with the last trial in France that concluded that the boy died from palestinian fire. The BDS movement continues to spread propaganda that it was IDF that shot the boy.

Lawrence Davidson, when asked about this, said that Israel behaves inhumanely, toward the palestinians and he has no reason to believe that the court findings are true. He is convinced that the palestinians can not do wrong.

And this is who's words your reading, accusing Romney of lying :).

Thought it was important to put things in context.

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Ah.

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Boycott Divest Sanction

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"For those who don't want to read the lengthy link that I provided"

*raises hand*

What's "BDS"?

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For those who don't want to read the lengthy link that I provided, Lawrence Davidson is a virulent antisemite that advocates the demise of Israel through BDS. He has written dozens of articles full of distortions and deliberate misinformation about the conflict between Israel and the palestinians.

Amongst respected historians such as Benny Morris, Martin Gilbert etc...he is often lumped with Ilan Pappe, a historical revisionist and a terrorist apologist that espouses the demise of Israel.

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To understand how this monster of an author thinks, and the type of a person Dr. Lawrence Davidson is, read this:

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"... we do not act on the basis of what is true. Rather we act on the basis of what we think is true. " ======== I don't know about this. People act on what they *wish could be true*. Like: You can have your taxes reduced, and the deficit will shrink, and you'll get a better job; all without pissing off the rest of the world or degrading the environment.

Romney may not have been born to lie, but his career has been as a salesman: Just convince the consumer he wants and needs your product. Since there are too many facts and too little time to properly analyze them, just project confidence in your statements, and he may buy your stuff.

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Part IV – Is it Pathological?

Romney's lying is so pervasive, so ever-present, that one starts to wonder if it is pathological.

There is a mental illness characterized by habitual lying. It goes by the name of Pseudologia Fantastica. Here are some of the characteristics of this ailment:

a. The lies told "are not entirely improbable" and "upon confrontation, the teller can admit them to be untrue, even if unwillingly." In other words, the liar is aware that he or she is lying.

b. The lies told cast the teller in a favorable light.

c. The tendency to lie is a long-lasting one and not the product of the moment. It reflects an innate trait of the personality.

Well, Romney fits this pattern when it comes to the first two traits. It is hard to tell about the third. We will have to await the in-depth biographies that are certain to hit the market in short order. However, there is no doubt that the man has an easy facility for lying. One doubts if it keeps him up at night.

Part V – Conclusion

When the powerful lie it is a problem for all of us. That is because we do not act on the basis of what is true. Rather we act on the basis of what we think is true. When it comes to foreign policy, what the powerful and the media tell us is what most of us accept as true. This distinction between what is true and what we think is true is critically important. If what we believe is true approximates the reality outside of us, then our plans and actions usually work out. If, however, what we think is true is off the mark, we can end up walking right off a cliff.

In the last fifty years Americans have been walking off cliffs quite regularly, with the result that millions have been killed and maimed. They have done so in large part because they have a hard time knowing when they are being lied to, especially about foreign policy. If the Pew poll cited above is any predictor, nothing is going to change any time soon. Elect Mitt Romney and that walk toward the cliff might turn into a run. Reelect Obama, and the cliff will probably remain our self-destructive destination, but perhaps the pace will be more measured

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Part III – Does Lying Work?

So, does this serial falsification work? Can it actually help get a mythomanic elected president? It seems that the answer is yes. According to a Pew Research Center poll taken after the first Obama-Romney debate, "It's official. Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney...erased President Barack Obama's lead." According to a graph of the poll results Romney's picked up five percentage points to come even with Obama. 64% of voters "thought that Romney was more informative than President Obama."

The liar is more informative!? How is that possible? Well, you start with a lot of ignorance. The ignorance is not a function of lack of intelligence, but a function of lack of accurate contextual knowledge. As a consequence the level of understanding of the average American about government policy on national issues such as healthcare, energy independence, job creation, the deficit, military spending and even taxes is considerably lower than their average IQ. It is even worse when we get to foreign policy and its formulation.

Into the resulting knowledge vacuum comes the misleading statements and assertions of politicians, so-called experts, and media spokesman of all descriptions. Fox TV has made millions of dollars selling advertising that accompanies biased opinion passed off as fact. In the end what the majority of Americans think they know about both domestic and foreign policy is based on media hear-say. Romney's assertive and stylized lying fits well into this scenario. And his style also passes for strength and self-confidence.

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