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User Details are only visible to members.	Sydney Morning Herald Barack Obama's government has warned its Western allies and Syria's opposition groups that it can do nothing to intervene in the country's crisis until after November's presidential election. Despite the pleas of Syrian rebels, who are seeking help for their efforts to overthrow the President, Bashar al-Assad, the White House has refused all requests for heavy weapons and intelligence support. The announcement came as fighting in Damascus reached its worst level since the uprising began last year. Syrian government forces backed by helicopter gunships battled rebels in fierce clashes overnight, the latest sign that Syria's conflict is fast descending into a civil war that is moving ever closer to the heart of Mr Assad's regime. Government forces have already used tanks and armored personnel carriers in the fight in the capital but the use of airpower reflected the intensity and seriousness of the clashes. Syrian lobby groups in Washington, who weeks ago were expressing hope the Obama administration might approve the supply of anti-tank and anti-aircraft missiles, said they had now been forced to 'take a reality pill' by the US government. It is understood the Syrian Support Group, the political wing of the Free Syrian Army, recently prepared a document requesting 1000 RPG-29 anti-tank missiles, 500 SAM-7 rockets and 750 23mm machine guns, as well as body armour and secure satellite phones. They also wanted $US6 million to pay rebel fighters. But the group abandoned these plans after being warned they would be rejected. The Obama administration has also made clear to its allies that it will not intervene, a message that was carried to London last week by Tom Donilon, the White House national security adviser. Sources in Washington who were familiar with the matter said Mr Donilon had made it 'abundantly clear' there was no room for increased American involvement in Syria. Syrian lobby groups in Washington have been reluctant to speak publicly about their frustrations with the Obama government for fear of alienating White House officials, but also giving succor to the Assad regime. However, a third lobby group, which asked to remain anonymous, said it too had come up against a White House 'red line'. The American position means there is little hope of a swift resolution to the Syrian crisis, with the stage set instead for a protracted civil war.
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User Details are only visible to members.	"Moscow: US President Barack Obama's threat to intervene in Syria is an element of his election campaign, Syrian Deputy Prime Minister Kadri Jamil said Tuesday. "As far as Obama's statements are concerned, these are information and propaganda threats that are linked to the upcoming elections," Jamil said at a news conference hosted by RIA Novosti. "There are all sorts of games that are being played in connection with US presidential elections." The presidential election is set for Nov 6. "After the Russian-Chinese veto (at the UN Security Council) the West is looking for an opportunity for military intervention in Syria, but we must say that such intervention is impossible," Jamil said. "Those who are contemplating that evidently want to see the crisis expand and spill over beyond Syria." He also said the issue of President Bashar al-Assad's resignation could only be discussed after an all-Syria dialogue begins. "Setting (Assad's) resignation as a condition before dialogue means that there will be no dialogue," Jamil said. He said that such an approach was an attempt to impose decisions on the Syrian people. "I believe, first, the entire Syrian people should be asked. If this issue is being imposed on us from abroad, it is a very dangerous precedent in international relations," he said. Since March 2011, the Syrian conflict has claimed up to 20,000 lives, according to estimates by various Syrian opposition groups. "
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User Details are only visible to members.	Lucky, Thank you for re-posting it, now I don't have to wait to get a screen capture to email to Wayne. Here you go Wayne. Lucky re-posted his attack.
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User Details are only visible to members.	I'll also be happy, nay my PLEASURE, to continue to poke and prod the Suction Boss. I'll say it again, if you want to make comments on MY comments M, then you leave yourself open to whatever ridicule I can or care to muster. Might as well give up your little power play and come out of hiding, you are beginning to look like a spoiled little brat... You initiated this little cyber skirmish M, and you insist on continuing it, but I'm MORE than willing to put a period to it all or continue as long as you do. In fact, I suppose I need to go get a second profile now so I can keep track of your inane bullshit myself...what a pain in the ass! If YOU want to be left alone, try granting that very favor or become accustomed to my continued attentions. Pretty simple really, if you comment on me, or what I write then you are most certainly fair game yourself. Oh, and having me suspended repeatedly for the self same type of comments that all your little sycophants post makes you seem incredibly disingenuous and just pisses me off more. You might want to reconsider that particular tactic as well because frankly, you are becoming predictable and boring again.... Oh and Wayne? Why not let this run a while and see if M can actually defend herself and her actions? You are becoming the USA to her Israel lately... She wants to be able to bloody someones nose, then run to the 'big dog' and get YOU to do her heavy lifting. Are you missing this? For someone who claims to admire anarchy, you certainly seem to favor tyranny and despotism in here.... You want the federal government to remove all controls and let everyone 'sink or swim on their own' and yet you can't even approach those ideals here in the forums? You seem to lack faith in the convictions you espouse. (thread deletion in 4....3...2.... predictable outcome)
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User Details are only visible to members.	Lucky To begin with, I was not just addressing your comments. Also, do you have more current info? I could not find it. All I could find was opinion, no fact. Could you post a link? You know damn well what my point was here: Lay down with dogs, you get up with fleas; The main reason I broke ranks with the Repubs 10 years ago.... If you believe what you say here, and if you truly want to be DISTINCT from the neoconservatives here, then when 'fj the asshole' or whatever you said posts bullshit, or WHOever does, voice your displeasure. I don't know that I've EVER seen one of the neo-cons voice displeasure with their own, it would be an interesting development... Now about Syria, I WOULD be interested in seeing any FACTS that you have on the situation there. Show me some info from a CREDIBLE source, not AIPAC or some other hyper-conservative think tank or compromised religious think tank and I'll be happy to debate on FACTS.
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User Details are only visible to members.	Lucky "What's your point? You think Russia is going to start lobbing missiles into Israel?" It isnt the bases of which we have no real intel. up to date. Russia is helping assad for what gain? What is their point? "I just posted a slew of very deep non-partisan information posts that spells out the bulk of all of this. It's called a National Intelligence Estimate. That's about as close to the source as one can get. Who here has even bothered to read it? No one even commented." I did and all I got back was your Bull Shit. OH and your report was from 2008 from what I read. and a lot has changed since then. I told you over 200 tanks were delivered to Syria. No comment from you on this. Also the special forces arriving from Iran. Please tell me what do they gain by suppporting Assad? I believe I have the answer and you blow it off. I wrote what I think was going on. Apparently you never did read what I wrote. Your intel report is out dated. "You all have your minds made up, especially Suction Boss her own self. Why cloud them up with facts, eh? You just call names, suckle each others asses (fj, you really ARE embarrassing yourself puppy, stop it.) and re-state the same tired neoconservative claptrap again and again, as if the incantations themselves had some kind of magical 'winning' power against the dreaded Liberals!" Paragraph one of Absolute Bull shit and complete Paranoia and were you addressing me of that fucking loser FJ? I never subscribe and I never read his posts. Like you, he is full of shit. Your bad habit is judging other by what other people write. The same for all of you liberals you judge the entire party by what one person says. "And god help anyone who is actually able to dish back the same crap you shovel, you go and whine to a higher power and/or block your profile (yet run around and read it all with a second profile). Then when you get spanked, you try to get all collegiate and shit "The Model Debater Society of Schizoid University" is in session!!!" Not once have I reported you for anything and there have been MANY time where I could have. I still think there is hope for real conversation with you but with you ranting like this how the fuck can we. And I have more conseritive blocked then I do liberals. I know how to filter them out you apparently dont have it in you to block the Bull shit and want to make it your game. There is the real reason you post here. Puhleeze... are you gay? "All Hail The Hypnotoad!! Anything to keep bored housewives in NJ munching their popcorn and getting lots of the attention online that their husbands don't give them. I'm really going to bust a gut when your neoconservative heroes get trampled in November...for the very same reasons you all fail so often here in these forums and why despite all the money you are STILL losing to the guy you hate so damn much-by any measure you care to take. It must give you all heartburn pretty much all the time.... Not a one of you can see past your own self interests to the wider world. Not a one of you has an ounce of humility. Not a one of you has a milligram of compassion and a damn site less patriotism that your pumped up little minds think you do." The rest of this post is you deep need for attention and that you are right and the rest of the world is wrong. I posted in here what I felt was going on and from what I see in the region. And you didnt comment on any of you posted a 2008 intel report and expect me to accept it. Not to mention it looks like you made the statement up and wrote it your self. I'll take it like you wrote it as Bull shit. I have a murder suicide to clean up so I need to go. Have a great day. OH and not one insult in this entire post. Suck it up little one.
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User Details are only visible to members.	"My gosh, they put him away for a week and he still doesn't learn! What is up with his obsession with me? I think that I need to start worrying. He can't stop thinking about me. Every other post is Seduction this, Sed that... wtf? Why do I attract all the "winners?" " Don't compliment yourself, it was one mention in one post. Nice try though. Unlike you I don't run around with another profile to read what I say so you can act all insulted. Someone had to send me this or I would not have seen your spew, which I prefer. I do want to thank you for 'putting me away' dahling, but you do not own a single one of these forums NOR do you have any special privilege that I cannot comment on you, as you do on others. Or do you propose two standards? One for you and your friends and one for those you deem unworthy? Of course you do! Get your big girl panties on sweetie or get out of the kitchen. Just stop running to daddy every time you get your nose bloodied...
East Fishkill NY			Username hidden (2772 post)

User Details are only visible to members.	Lucky What's your point? You think Russia is going to start lobbing missiles into Israel? Russia has a few small bases left and the US has had the bulk of it's entire active military crawling all over the region for how many years? I just posted a slew of very deep non-partisan information posts that spells out the bulk of all of this. It's called a National Intelligence Estimate. That's about as close to the source as one can get. Who here has even bothered to read it? No one even commented. Did Suction Boss spank your little hands again and say "How can you even converse with him?" Too fukin funny.... You all have your minds made up, especially Suction Boss her own self. Why cloud them up with facts, eh? You just call names, suckle each others asses (fj, you really ARE embarrassing yourself puppy, stop it.) and re-state the same tired neoconservative claptrap again and again, as if the incantations themselves had some kind of magical 'winning' power against the dreaded Liberals! And god help anyone who is actually able to dish back the same crap you shovel, you go and whine to a higher power and/or block your profile (yet run around and read it all with a second profile). Then when you get spanked, you try to get all collegiate and shit "The Model Debater Society of Schizoid University" is in session!!! Puhleeze... All Hail The Hypnotoad!! Anything to keep bored housewives in NJ munching their popcorn and getting lots of the attention online that their husbands don't give them. I'm really going to bust a gut when your neoconservative heroes get trampled in November...for the very same reasons you all fail so often here in these forums and why despite all the money you are STILL losing to the guy you hate so damn much-by any measure you care to take. It must give you all heartburn pretty much all the time.... Not a one of you can see past your own self interests to the wider world. Not a one of you has an ounce of humility. Not a one of you has a milligram of compassion and a damn site less patriotism that your pumped up little minds think you do.
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User Details are only visible to members.	fj could you fawn over the Suction Boss' ass any harder? Even I am embarrassed for you!
East Fishkill NY			Username hidden (2772 post)

User Details are only visible to members.	I dont get it either. It must be his Anti-semite coming through or maybe it is jealousy...That must be it.
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