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Robert...Bush's fatal error was to breaking up the Baathists and the Iraqi political infrastructure, it left the door wide open for Shiite minority rule....the biggest winner in the Iraqi war? The Iranian Shiite clergy leadership.

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There was never a point in which we could have brought Iraq into the western fold. The iraqi's would need 40 years of occupation and as much money as we dumptruck we into Germany's reconstruction after WWII, to make Iraq a viable western like nation.

You would have to spend the first ten years killing every religious leader not pro-US.

The second and third decades reeducating the children born after the invasion. (Both male and female) and executing any (in iraq) who would stand in the way of this.

The last ten years would be spent turning Iraq back over to the Iraqi's.

The cost of this endeavor would be beyond what any one nation could afford. That is why the soviets didn't try it, they just raped and pillaged their conquered lands after WWII.

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What more useless and irrelevant than a Canadian jew commenting on American policy in the middle east? Sorry..it was a trick question....the answer is nothing Not only useless and irrelevant, but what was once amusing in a dwarf trying to get a can off the top shelf sort of way, has become mind numbingly boring and predictable, thus the information challenged buffoon is blocked...said information challenged buffoon may now babble to himself, since no one who matters ever listened to him in the first place

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Lucky2haveU ...Assad is damaged goods...but you are on the right track. We should be bolstering the secular Baathist anti AQ anti Islamist majority that that does exists in Syria, but has become marginalized by the extremists. It's Bibi's and the ADL's worst nightmare, but good for international interests.

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What more useless and irrelevant than a Canadian jew commenting on American policy in the middle east? Sorry..it was a trick question....the answer is nothing For the record, the neo cons (Assuming said Canadian Jew even knows what that means) said nothing of the kind, it was in fact the neo cons who advocated the now backfired regime change, and created an Iranian/Iraqi Sheiite super state...DUHHHH Iraq was salvageable, secular and and could have been brought into the western fold....if only there had been leadership that had a clue between 2003 and 2009...We have that opportunity in Syria,,,if we don't blow it The bell Rang...Remedial middle east politics class is over for now

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That was very funny va.

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IMHO we are going after the wrong people. We should help Assad. And fight AQ while they are there.

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I'm pretty sure the vast majority of Syrians have certed him.

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The political forum reach a new low as the Perky one, drawing on his knowledge of "the vast majority of Syrians," adopts the same flawed premises as the neo-Cons he so often decries.

They argued that Iraq was educated, secular and sported a young generation that was fond of its western trappings and not likely to support Jihadists.

They said if we simply removed Saddam, it could release a new wave of modernism and secular democracy in the Arab world.

Although Perky adds an incoherent, anti-Semitic twist to the debate, he essentially advocates in Syria the same thing that the neo-Cons claimed regarding Iraq.

As if....

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Pleaseher7 ...I contend that is a false dichotomy. The vast majority of the Syrian people are neither Islamist or prone to support government sponsored terrorism. Syria is not Afghanistan, and it's not even Iraq. Syria is a fully functional partitioned secular/sunni, mostly literate westernized nation. It has Universities, infrastructure, public institutions, distinct administrative and judicial districts and an under 40 generation who love electronics, broadband, smart phones and western culture, and are about as interested in dying in jehad as they are jumping into a cesspool. The problem is, because of our unwise and ill advised unconditional servitude to organized Zionism, we have forced Assad into Russian dependency and a bizarre alliance with non secular non Sunni Iran. If we can keep the Government intact minus Assad and allow the voices of reason to rule, not only can Syria not be an enemy, it can be an ally not unlike Egypt.

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