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And here's another thing to ponder.....

They talk about those making "at or below" minimum wage. "Below" is service workers who make the "other" minimum and make most of their money on tips, but legally if their tips do not bring them up to minimum wage, the employer must top it up.

So how come they still count as "below minimum"? If they "make" $4 an hour or whatever it is but pull in $20 an hour in tips, why are they still counted as "below minimum"? Or am I misunderstanding this?

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Now here would be a REALLY interesting number....

We know how many people make minimum wage. Presumably many more make something in between the current $7.25 and the proposed $9. How many people would that be, I wonder?

I remember when I was 21 and I got a raise from (roughly) $5 to $6 an hour. A month later the government raised the min to $6 and now I was at minimum wage again. I was pissed.

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And this is why some people own a business, and some will always be working for others.

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"Most minimum wage paying jobs are in service industries. Those prices are set by consumer demand, not wages."

- That is patently absurd. Their business models run just like any other - if you can sell enough of your product or service with a sufficient margin to cover the costs of doing business.

The prices for EVERYTHING is set on a supply/demand basis - from Big Macs to Mercedes Benzs. Costs are costs - wages, leather seats, burger patties, electricity, taxes, government fees and mandates, and giant glowing M signs. All of them drive up your baseline costs, and your prices MUST increase to cover it.

If your statement were true, they could raise their employee wages infinitely and it wouldn't impact their prices. Your statement is logically and demonstrably false. Anyone who runs any kind of business can tell you that.

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"A rise in minimum wage will help those on the bottom be able to buy more goods and pay some bills. That helps the economy. "

Again, helps almost nobody. Why not just give them government checks? Where is this money going to come from?

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Nk was a union electrician. 'nuff said.

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Organized labor's instantaneous support for President Obama's recent proposal to hike the minimum wage doesn't make much sense at first glance. The average private-sector union member—at least one who still has a job—earns $22 an hour according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics. That's a far cry from the current $7.25 per hour federal minimum wage, or the $9 per hour the president has proposed. Altruistic solidarity with lower-paid workers isn't the reason for organized labor's cheerleading, either.

The real reason is that some unions and their members directly benefit from minimum wage increases—even when nary a union member actually makes the minimum wage.

The Center for Union Facts analyzed collective-bargaining agreements obtained from the Department of Labor's Office of Labor-Management Standards. The data indicate that a number of unions in the service, retail and hospitality industries peg their base-line wages to the minimum wage.

The Labor Department's collective-bargaining agreements file has a limited number of contracts available, so we were unable to determine how widespread the practice is. But the United Food and Commercial Workers International Union says that pegging its wages to the federal minimum is commonplace. On its website, the UFCW notes that "oftentimes, union contracts are triggered to implement wage hikes in the case of minimum wage increases." Such increases, the UFCW says, are "one of the many advantages of being a union member."

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"Most good jobs pay more than minimum wage. The cost of manufacturing, construction would not be effected."

- Make that "most jobs". You already demonstrated that. 0.15% of the population work full time minimum wage jobs.

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""Minimun wage does not drive up prices as BS claims. "

Union mentality.

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Most good jobs pay more than minimum wage. The cost of manufacturing, construction would not be effected.

Most minimum wage paying jobs are in service industries. Those prices are set by consumer demand, not wages.

A rise in minimum wage will help those on the bottom be able to buy more goods and pay some bills. That helps the economy.

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