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Damn Bobby, looks like there are a lot of painters making a living from painting in your depressed little town. Do your lies ever come to an end?

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VA:

What part of being a painter only not paying the bills do you not understand?

People do not hire painters, not around here. Any contractor is a jack of all trades and master of none. It is the only method of competing as the clients do not want to go fishing for a electrician, plumber, carpenters, roofers, ect.

So the more services you offer, the more likely you are to get the contract. This is why so many are fly by nights. They open up shop in their basments and then flee when they screw up a job... Just to avoid suit.

As a guard for my security company, I work with two such screw ups. They held their own businesses until the first screw up and now they are working for minimum wage. If the photos he showed me are to be believed, he they did good work... It is just that you can't compete if painting is all you do.

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VB, try not to take this too personally, but we've seen this logic before.

Freeing the slaves puts you at an immediate advantage over slaveowners. It's government fucking with business and the losers are the slaves themselves and the businesses that own them, or the consumers, or (probably) all of the above.

The slave caste are that way for a reason - they bring next to nothing in terms of skills or performance. If they have been raised into slavery, I fail to see how freeing them will suddenly make them better workers and increase the quality of what they're doing. Did freeing the slaves turn Massachusetts into Shangri-La? Hardly.

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Jeez the guy can't even paint without excuses...

Windermere FL
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"canadian homles guy"

Huh?

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robert waaa waaaaa.get up off your knees.at 21 I was making minimum wage.at 25 I was making 5 times minimun wage.your librial goverment did not give me a choice about ss,it demanded I pay in.and I paid in for 53 years.how long have you paid in.it not how much you make,it how you spend it, or save.you are 27 years old and you are making minimun wage.well cry me a fucking river.O one other thing I only finshed the ninth grade.and a nother thing I only worked the kind of jobs that I wanted.I alway got paid good,why,because I worked hard, first there,last to leave.I never had a boss hover over me because they knew I would do the job that needed to be done.I didn't set around crying I wasn't getting paid enough.grow up wimp........BS

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VA:

I don't know about where you live, but here in Hazleton... A painter doesn't make much. They are also expected to be the carpenter who can fix the walls inside the house, doors and generally take a hallowed out room and turn it into something that can be sold.

So you are needing work permits, dumpsters (disposing of the old walls and wood/windows, doors) Possibly some plumbing and electrical. Then you have to have contacts to get inspectors to check these things.

Construction around here sucks, because the clients expect you to be that canadian homles guy... Oh and do it on minimum wage.

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Or a person can sell hamburgers and chili for a premium, pay the staff less than minimum wage, and they can make money from tips. All the while making fun of the patrons, and making insulting dunce caps for them, with insults written on the hats.

Sounds crazy huhhh? Ever been to Dick's in Myrtle Beach?

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LOL that was amusing.

But you *do* see where I'm going - raising the minimum wage puts you at an immediate advantage over minimum-wage paying competitors. It's government fucking with business and the losers are the minimum wage workers themselves and the businesses that hire them, or the consumers, or (probably) all of the above.

The "minimum wage forever" crowd are that way for a reason - they bring next to nothing in terms of skills or performance. If they are making minimum wage forever I fail to see how raising the minimum wage will suddenly make them better employees and increase the quality of what they're doing. Did raising the minimum wage to $7.25 turn McDonald's into Olive Garden? Hardly. They are the same jokers in there they were 5 years ago, with some college-educated desperate middle-agers thrown in for good measure.

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As soon as my business starts to surge, from the lessened cost difference, I'll naturally raise the cost of my burgers. Both my employees and I will get more money. I just don't have the space to put out more burgers. The workers do enough as it is, and adding more would just make it crowded in the kitchen.

Rather than sacrifice the ambience and the leisurely way we lovingly pat and knead each and every succulent blob of meat, we'll see what the market can bear. If we've overpriced our burgers, we'll have deals and incentives, or just drop the price back a bit.

Because my competitors now have better paid workers, they'll provide better service. Less motivation to go looking for a better paid job, so there's more continuity, more experience, and more loyalty everywhere.

It's just a win win win situation when people are better treated and less exploited.

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