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User Details are only visible to members.	Here's a thought....Charity. Mitt leads by example.
Pittsburgh PA			Username hidden (14605 post)

User Details are only visible to members.	Dog eat world we desire? No Robert all we well me desire is for the goverment to yes be there for those who truly need. Not damn near advertize come on over to the USA,,The American dream has changed, All you have to do is come here and all is on us. Thats what people are fed up with, Spin all you wana but thats the damn truth, Oh also our POTUS In a way also says, Fuck it yall can destroy our Embacys too we dont care, Mickey.
Maurice LA			Username hidden (3731 post)

User Details are only visible to members.	It is really simple to say that entitlement spending is unsustainable, but that doesn't nearly tell the whole story. The two programs that are really "unsustainable" are Social Security and Medicare/Medicaid. The rest are really pretty small in government terms. ;-) Social Security can be "fixed" by raising the income subject to payroll taxes from the current 110,000 to 250,000. That change insures that the program is fully funded for the requisite 75 years the actuaries require. Medicare/Medicaid is a little more complex. However, the "unsustainability" of these two programs is due to the mess that the entire health care delivery and payment system is in. Fix that, and the costs will rapidly come into line.
Lakeside CA			Username hidden (15727 post)

User Details are only visible to members.	It never ceases to amaze me at how the right think that people are born with the ability to invest wisely. Let alone refuse to accept that the stock market is noting more than a horse race. You control nothing in a horse race, a slight cold and the horse can preform poorly, a change of jockey and the horse maybe off it's mark... If conservatives want to throw those who are no longer in school off the social dime... Then they must accept responsibility to prepare the kids for investment. That means from K to 12th grade, you are being educated in investment banking. Short of this, you can not expect people to be able to, or confident enough to invest into the dog and pony show that is the stock market. More over, I demand anyone convicted of manipulating the stock market to be tried and punished as a economic traitor and terrorist. Their lives should be forfeited, all wealth seized and repaid to the victims... No matter what family member was given that money. (wife/kids, other) all assets are seized. If we are to be serious about demanding total independence, than we must be equally serious about preparing all of our children for the dog eat dog world we desire.
Hazle Township PA			Username hidden (4817 post)

User Details are only visible to members.	Outdoor, the most realistic recommendations I've seen are that it will take a combination of increased revenue and restrained spending to balance the budget. I also think that overnight fiscal austerity would scuttle the fragile recovery from the recession, and only make the deficit worse. Abbreviations are for Unemployment Insurance, Earned Income Tax Credit, Child Tax Credit, and Temporary Assistance to Needy Families. Food stamps technically are no more; SNAP is the new term, for Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program.
San Quentin CA			Username hidden (8604 post)

User Details are only visible to members.	UI: Seems we could save Billions if people could get a job. UI and all the benefits below only come in to question when we are in crisis and are a great idea during good times.
Saint Louis MO			Username hidden (12119 post)

User Details are only visible to members.	Which of the following entitlements need to be eliminated? Social Security retirement: Yes. Privatize and make it a choice for only those who earn less than 150,000 a year. If you make that kind of money then you should have invested in your self and bear no responsibility for anyone else. Doing this will save Trillions of dollars. Social Security disability: Again Make a clear distinction on what disablilities will be covered and give a tax break to those who buy and keep disability insurance on their own. To be eligable for gov. disability you must earn less than $150,000 a year. All disabled veterans wounded in battle should be considered disabled and covered. Medicare: Over 60 and under 18 with out means to buy on their own should be covered. And no one in between. Will save Billions. EITC CTC Medicaid: Eliminate see medicare. TANF Food stamps: Aid for dependant children and those over 60. Don't have a problem with food stamps other than we need jobs!!!! Getting the jobs will lower cost by its self. Unemployment is a huge factor in food stamps. Mandatory drug testing. Housing Assistance: One strike and you are out. Violations in rules and the use of drugs and or distribution of them any felony or related offense must disqualify you and no appeals. I don't know of the others so I wont comment on them but some of these ideas will reduce cost to the tax payer. Move most of the above to be administered by states. It is apparent the fed. Cant handle it with out losing control and over spending. The Administration of these programs cost more than the benefits that are given. Seems we can save billions just by cutting admin. costs. The average pay and benefit packages given to administrators is ove $60,000 a year seems a little high for the work that they do.
Saint Louis MO			Username hidden (12119 post)

User Details are only visible to members.	Outdoor: Taxing the rich only places that money into these programs. I would much rather see the rich raise the wages and benefits of their employees, than to have government programs. However as those like Fjep and others have said... Greed is good. If greed is good for those who are independently strong enough to stand alone... Then the same holds true for those who are just as strong as a collective group. Call it socialism if we must, but the existance of these programs is the direct result of employers not listening to the demands of their employees. Instead of firing employees who asked for a wage, or otherwise making your employees afraid through punishment of some kind... The employer should have had a pannel of employees who represented the entire employee base. Their job would be to be the go between the employee and the boss and the negotiating force. But as too many employers wanted total control, they may now learn the hard way that control a few hold over the many is little more than an illusion of control.
Hazle Township PA			Username hidden (4817 post)

User Details are only visible to members.	Shouldn't we tax rich people at a rate more in line with historic norms, and THEN see if any of these spending programs need to be cut? Also, I can't decipher these abbreviations. Or are they acronyms?
Flat Rock NC			Username hidden (2811 post)

User Details are only visible to members.	I guess no one wanted to answer my question below about which mandatory spending/entitlements should be eliminated. I listed the major one's (but forgot to include UI), and was interested in hearing specifics from peeps who are always saying that entitlement spending at present rates are unsustainable (which I don't disagree). Which one's do we cut, when, and what effects would that have? Here's a re-post for anyone who wants to take a stab at it: Which of the following entitlements need to be eliminated? Social Security retirement Social Security disability Medicare EITC CTC Medicaid TANF Food stamps Housing Assistance
San Quentin CA			Username hidden (8604 post)

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