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oh i agree sen, i just meant it was not a complete government take over of the media...yet!! seems to be headin in that direction though, sadly.

i just hope it doesn't get to the point were we (mrs dzzy and me) can't go "home" anymore..

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"i am not quite sure that story is entirely correct. as i understand it, the new policy with regard to tv and radio is that half its coverage must portray the government in a "positive" light. there were some protests but of course, not much was heard about it and most likely, the protestors...dissappeared :-)" ------------------------------------------------------------------ Dzzy,

I am confused by your comment? You mean to tell me that having a "policy" of what must be presented and the position of how it is presented is not taking control? Do you not think that if any government dictated to a radio or television station that half of it's coverage must be positive to the government, that the radio or television station would not get the "subliminal" message that the other half needs to be the same thing? Either way it is government interference and repressing freedom of speech. Sorry, whether you or US News has it exactly correct is just semantics. The issue is the state seems to be taking control of the country again.

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P,

thats true fo sure.

sen,

i am not quite sure that story is entirely correct. as i understand it, the new policy with regard to tv and radio is that half its coverage must portray the government in a "positive" light. there were some protests but of course, not much was heard about it and most likely, the protestors...dissappeared :-)

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if u have been here since age 3... no accent???

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According to a new report in US World News, Putin has seized control of all Television and Radio Stations, he has directed and froze pricing by all oil companies (The report reflects that Shell is the largest oil company in Russia), he has (temporarily?) suspended all free trade. Sectors of all major cities have curfew restrictions - not for kids - for adults.

The article is written with the concern that the "old ways" may be returning and that Putin may be gathering power to appoint himself, either through a self referendum or a fixed election, to a third term.

The big bear may be waking from a long slumber.

To touch on the U.S. Missile Defense System placed in Europe; ALL European nations to include Russia were invited and inspected the system. It is designed and programmed to defend Europe from attacks from the Middle East and North Korea. The system is being put in place, with the approval of our NATO partners, due to the concerns that either a terrorist government or group could potentially launch a self made, stolen or black market purchased weapon into Europe.

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P,

that was really my purpose in starting the thread in terms of a discussion of ideas as to what to do about the situation but i decided not to really present it in a "we better not deal with russia like we dealt with iraq" fashion because i didn't want all the thread diversion.

i certainly agree that we cannot deal with the russian situation in the same "cowboy" fashion as we have done with the "axis of evil"... it may actually require some real "foreign policy" and "diplomacy" :-)

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where is monica??...i think bush just needs a good blowjob and a nicely packed bong better send jesse jackson to russia he can fix everything...wait...oh yeah micheal jackson...he can fix everything

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Part II: "The people of the Czech Republic don't have to choose between being a friend of the United States or a friend with Russia," Bush said at a joint appearance with Czech Prime Minister Mirek Topolanek and President Vaclav Klaus in a high-ceilinged hall of medieval Prague Castle. "You can be both. We don't believe in a zero-sum world."

Standing on soil that was in the Soviet orbit less than 20 years ago, Bush made a declaration not thought necessary for decades: "The Cold War is over."

The once-obvious statement has been rendered less so lately amid an escalating war of words between Washington and Moscow.

So far, the Bush administration has mostly held its rhetorical fire, giving muted reaction such as calling Putin's remarks "not helpful" and repeating its insistence that the network is meant to protect NATO allies against a missile launch from Iran, not Russia. U.S. officials do not want to give Putin the satisfaction of appearing to be engaged in a dispute among equals with the world's only superpower.

But the system is unpopular in the Czech Republic, too, among its wary citizens if not its leaders. People fear becoming a terrorist target, and they worry about Russia's wrath, as well.

Bush, Topolanek and Klaus sought to calm those fears.

Bush said he will make his case directly to Putin Thursday when they meet on the sidelines of the Group of Eight summit in Germany.

"My message will be Vladimir — I call him Vladimir — that you shouldn't fear a missile defense system," Bush said. "As a matter of fact, why don't you cooperate with us on a missile defense system? Why don't you participate with the United States?"

Klaus applauded Bush's promise to make "maximum efforts" with Putin.

Bush was flying from Prague to Germany for the three-day summit. Bush's eight-day European trip also includes stops in Poland, Italy, Albania and Bulgaria.

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PRAGUE, Czech Republic - President Bush risked further stoking a testy dispute with Russia over a new U.S. missile defense system on Tuesday, saying Moscow has "derailed" once-promising democratic reforms.

ADVERTISEMENT In a speech celebrating democracy's progress around the globe — and calling out places where its reach is either incomplete or lacking — Bush said that free societies emerge "at different speeds in different places" and have to reflect local customs. But he said certain values are universal to all democracies, and rapped several countries for not embracing them.

"In Russia, reforms that once promised to empower citizens have been derailed, with troubling implications for democratic development," Bush said, speaking at a conference of current and former dissidents.

The president asserted that this discussion of democratic backsliding in Russia under the leadership of President Vladimir Putin was just one part of a strong relationship. "America can maintain a friendship and push a nation toward democracy at the same time," Bush said.

But the lecture, however gentle, was not likely to be well-received by Putin, already riled over what he sees as unwelcome meddling by the United States in Russia's sphere of influence.

Most recently, Moscow has become increasingly irritated by U.S. plans to build a missile shield in Eastern Europe, on Russia's doorstep.

U.S. officials have been alarmed by threatening statements from Putin and others over the proposed network. Russia believes the system — with a radar base to be sited in the Czech Republic and interceptor missiles in neighboring Poland — is meant for it. Putin has said he has no choice but to boost his nation's own military potential in response.

Putin warned over the weekend that Moscow could take "retaliatory steps" including aiming nuclear weapons at U.S. military bases in Europe. China on Tuesday joined Russia in saying the shield could touch off a new arms race.

"Part of a good relationship is the ability to talk openly about our disagreements," Bush said in the speech at Czernin Palace. "So the United States will continue to build our relationships with these countries and we will do it without abandoning our principles or our values."

Bush said this same approach applies to other allies with difficult democratic records, naming Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan and China.

"China's leaders believe that they can continue to open the nation's economy without also opening its political system," Bush said.

He listed as the nations with the "worst dictatorships," Belarus, Burma, Cuba, North Korea, Sudan, Zimbabwe, Iran and Syria. He also criticized Venezuela, Uzbekistan and Vietnam as places where progress had been made but now "freedom is under assault."

The conference was hosted by Natan Sharansky, a former prisoner of the Soviet regime who has continued to champion freedom, and former Czech President Vaclav Havel, who led the Velvet Revolution that ended communism in the former Czechoslovakia in 1989. The president met with dissidents after the speech.

With the Iraq war raging and that country far from a stable democracy, critics say there is widespread skepticism about Bush's "freedom agenda" — the byproduct of his promise to advance democracy in every corner of the globe.

But Bush claimed the mantle of democratic warrior.

"I pledged America to the ultimate goal of ending tyranny in our world," he said. "Some have said that qualifies me as a dissident president. If standing for liberty in the world makes me a dissident, then I'll wear the title with pride."

Earlier, Bush defended the plans for the missile shield here against fierce opposition by the local population as well as Russia. Czech leaders chimed in to back him up, as did Poland's prime minister from afar.

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Look what happened toJapan. Its not the Missles that scare me it is the man incharge. Putin is a very nerves sort with his hand on the button.

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I am still concerned with the news you don't hear. The 90 plus nuclear warheads that are unaccounted for since the end of the cold war - 1989.

Do not underestimate this sleeping giant!

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