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and you think the government has lower overhead or makes better decisions, or can manage any program better? I doubt it, look at the people here who suck off the govt tit and never had a real job.

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Gov't healthcare seems to work for the vets.

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A look at any newspaper from the UK will expose the dangers of socialised medicine. Definitely don't want to go there.

Almost 20 years ago, I worked for a company that produced implantable medical electronic devices. I worked in the R&D dept of that company and some of the things we worked on were then the stuff of science fiction. We developed self lubricating coatings for artificial hips, heart assist devices, sensors that would analyze oxygen levels in the bloodstream, nuclear powered heart pacemakers and other cool stuff. Some are in use today, others like the atomic pacemaker fell by the wayside. What drove all of this R&D was pure simple profit.

We need for profit medicine. The USA leads the world in new medical technologies.

Do we really have that many uninsured? I'm not so sure. How many of those uninsured are actually illegals who aren't supposed to be here? Do we have people who will drive new cars but won't buy health insurance because "it's too expensive"? You bet. Good health benefits were extremely important to me when I was looking for job.

I think there still is a lot we can do to streamline medical insurance costs and cut down on bureaucracy.

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when you stop paying billions for illegals to get for free the health care you pay for, maybe we will have a chance to straighten it out.

1. $11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to illegal aliens each year. 2. $2.2 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens. 3. $2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on Medicaid for illegal aliens. 4. $12 Billion dollars a year is spent on primary and secondary school education for children here illegally and they cannot speak a word of English! 5. $17 Billion dollars a year is spent for education for the American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies. 6. $3 Million Dollars a DAY is spent to incarcerate illegal aliens. 7. 30% percent of all Federal Prison inmates are illegal aliens. 8. $90 Billion Dollars a year is spent on illegal aliens for Welfare & social services by the American taxpayers. 9. $200 Billion Dollars a year in suppressed American wages are caused by the illegal aliens. 10. The illegal aliens in the United States have a crime rate that's two and a half times that of white non-illegal aliens. In particular, their children, are going to make a huge additional crime problem in the US. 11. During the year of 2005 there were 4 to 10 MILLION illegal aliens that crossed our Southern Border also, as many as 19,500 illegal aliens from Terrorist Countries. Millions of pounds of drugs, cocaine, meth, heroine and marijuana, crossed into the U.S. from the Southern border. 12. The National Policy Institute "estimated that the total cost of mass deportation would be between $206 and $230 billion or an average cost of between $41 and $46 billion annually over a five year period." 13. In 2006 illegal aliens sent home $45 BILLION in remittances back to their countries of origin. 14. "The Dark Side of Illegal Immigration: Nearly One Million Sex Crimes Committed by Illegal Immigrants In The United States ". The total cost is a whopping: $ 338.3 BILLION dollars a year.

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Single Payer vs Private Ins thats the real question. I hear all the talking points by both sides. Reality is probably somewhere in the middle.

My company has changed plans 3 times in the last 7 years because of increased costs. Choice! What a joke. Every time we change networks I have to change doctors and dentists to fit the "plan". We have a 90 page book of what they will not cover, and it ain't cheap.

Common sense tells me there are over 500 major carriers providing healthcare insurance. The all have sales people, vice presidents, big time overhead, and this is supposed to be the most efficient way of delivering healthcare. The main ingredient of "for profit" healthcare that I see as a major conflict of interest is - the way to increase profits is to provide less care, deny more care, reduce payments, larger co-pays, etc.

Some things just don't work well in the private sector.

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LOL Kev, or made in China???? Agreed

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There are lots of ways to do national health care. Neither Clinton nor Obama have advocated "single-payer" care as is practiced in most other industrialized nations.

With all due respect, I don't really know where to start with the rest of your post. Let's try a few statements.

The US spends more than any other industrialized country on health care and yet we have 40 some million uninsured, you included. Yet we rank below most of those countries in any metric of well being.

The insurance industry spends up to 30 percent on advertising and other admin costs. Medicare spends 3 percent. So much for the efficiencies of the private market.

With any finite resource, there may be some shortages. However, I would think that you would rather have to wait a month for treatment rather than not have any treatment at all.

A lot of the hype about other countries wait times is just that, hype. Rather than me making pronouncements, I would suggest that you investigate the issue for yourself. Newspapers and studies from around the globe are available for the price of a few keystrokes. See what other people from other countries are saying about their healthcare, and then decide.

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I believe the insurance companies now how way too much say so over healthcare and it would just 50 times as worse going to a universal plan. And yeah, I am one of those millions of Americans without healthcare but I would prefer to be able to obtain my own, when I want, and choose whomever I like that to be forced by a dictator to do so.

I think that all senior citizens and children should be given top priority and the best healthcare. Seniors should not be forced to pay any premiums on healthcare ever.

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There are too many people uninsured. Millions because they cannot afford it. The insurance companies have raped the public at the same time they have rationed care through HMO's and their coverage decisions on what they will pay for and what they won't.

At the same time they tell doctors what they can charge and what they will pay for so that limits the care that doctors can provide.

At the same time, laws have been passed that prevent liability suits against insurance companies for their decisions. So they have free reign without the threat of accountability.

Allowing the insurance companies to have complete control over health care has been a disaster and gotten us where we are today. The government has to step up in some way to correct this imbalance.

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you mean rationed health care like the UK has...they will deny you a life saving procedure if it is too expensive. Our Fed Govt cannot run anything well, now you want a government(never had a job) bureaucrat deciding what healthcare "you" will get??

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