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From Politifact:

"President Obama was saying success "is the result of government," not "hard-working people," when he said, "If you've got a business, you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen."

Mitt Romney on Wednesday, July 25th, 2012 in an introduction to a web video

FALSE

For nearly two weeks, the Romney and Obama campaign have been arguing about whether President Barack Obama insulted entrepreneurs.

The argument started with comments Obama made about the intersection of business and government during a July 17, 2012 campaign appearance.

Romney, in comments at public events and in several ads, has argued that the remarks show a general disdain for business. The Republican National Committee and the National Federation of Independent Business are among the groups have released their own videos and statements echoing Romney that the president is out of touch.

In one fundraising e-mail, Matt Rhoades, Romney’s campaign manager, decried Obama’s "naïve view that government, and not the hard work, talent, and initiative of people, is the center of society and the economy." In another campaign e-mail, Amanda Henneberg, a Romney spokeswoman, said Obama had "denigrated Americans who built their own businesses."

The issue has become so big that the Obama campaign felt the need to address the issue head-on in a Web video titled "Tampered" that quoted media accounts saying the quote had been taken out of context.

Earlier, we looked at the full context of Obama’s statement. Here we will put a recent Romney claim about Obama’s comment to the Truth-O-Meter. To do this, we’ll look at the latest Romney web video in the seemingly endless back and forth.

Here's how the Romney campaign prefaced the video on its website:

"President Obama recently said: ‘If you've got a business, you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen.’

"Clearly, this President doesn't understand how our economy works.

"Mitt Romney understands that we have to celebrate people who start enterprises and employ other people rather than devalue them. Success is not the result of government, it is the result of hard-working people who take risks, create dreams, and build lives for themselves and for their families.

"Stand with Mitt today and stand up for Americans who work hard to build their businesses, their homes, their families and their communities."

In this item, we’ll rate the claim that Obama was saying success "is the result of government," not "hard-working people," when he said, "If you've got a business, you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen."

In case you didn't catch it the first 5,000 times the snippet ran on cable, yes, those words were uttered by Obama.

But as you can see when you read the full text of his remarks, that quote distorts the meaning of Obama's claim. (Romney himself has been a victim of this kind of shenanigans, when opponents claimed he said he liked firing people.)

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Seems deflecting really IS something that neo-cons excel at... Back to the OP:

So what about it? Are republikans still beating this drum or have you decided that discretion is the better half of valor?

From Politifact:

FALSE

"President Obama was saying success "is the result of government," not "hard-working people," when he said, "If you've got a business, you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen."

Mitt Romney on Wednesday, July 25th, 2012 in an introduction to a web video

FALSE

For nearly two weeks, the Romney and Obama campaign have been arguing about whether President Barack Obama insulted entrepreneurs.

The argument started with comments Obama made about the intersection of business and government during a July 17, 2012 campaign appearance.

Romney, in comments at public events and in several ads, has argued that the remarks show a general disdain for business. The Republican National Committee and the National Federation of Independent Business are among the groups have released their own videos and statements echoing Romney that the president is out of touch.

In one fundraising e-mail, Matt Rhoades, Romney’s campaign manager, decried Obama’s "naïve view that government, and not the hard work, talent, and initiative of people, is the center of society and the economy." In another campaign e-mail, Amanda Henneberg, a Romney spokeswoman, said Obama had "denigrated Americans who built their own businesses."

The issue has become so big that the Obama campaign felt the need to address the issue head-on in a Web video titled "Tampered" that quoted media accounts saying the quote had been taken out of context.

Earlier, we looked at the full context of Obama’s statement. Here we will put a recent Romney claim about Obama’s comment to the Truth-O-Meter. To do this, we’ll look at the latest Romney web video in the seemingly endless back and forth.

Here's how the Romney campaign prefaced the video on its website:

"President Obama recently said: ‘If you've got a business, you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen.’

"Clearly, this President doesn't understand how our economy works.

"Mitt Romney understands that we have to celebrate people who start enterprises and employ other people rather than devalue them. Success is not the result of government, it is the result of hard-working people who take risks, create dreams, and build lives for themselves and for their families.

"Stand with Mitt today and stand up for Americans who work hard to build their businesses, their homes, their families and their communities."

In this item, we’ll rate the claim that Obama was saying success "is the result of government," not "hard-working people," when he said, "If you've got a business, you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen."

In case you didn't catch it the first 5,000 times the snippet ran on cable, yes, those words were uttered by Obama.

But as you can see when you read the full text of his remarks, that quote distorts the meaning of Obama's claim. (Romney himself has been a victim of this kind of shenanigans, when opponents claimed he said he liked firing people.)

We score this one as a lie

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The Grand Old Pooper himself, Dick Cheney, is still a free man in America. He should have been assigned to Guantanamo Bay Detention Facility the week after Obama was inaugurated. With his second heart in jeopardy, he could become the Grand Old Croaker, the Frogx King.

Cheney/Bush's crimes are the costliest in American history, and the prime reason for America's financial woes.

Eat frogx legx much?

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aND SOME WONDER WHY SOME PEOPLE DO KEEP JUST ALITTLE OF THEIR MONEY FOR THEMSELVES :=)

Mickey,

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You seem [mr. HFT] like a retired Baptist minister proclaiming weird Baptist end-time doctrines while hoping to swing with a Moroccan hemp dealer.

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I wonder if Wicked Willard has convinced Israel that he is the only American Super-hero who can save them from destruction when the oil war nations send their troops to take their oil?

Isn't that one of the prophecies about the antichrist?

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Willard can tour Europe and make statements that seem diplomatic, but his accusatory and vain attitude always results in blunderous statements that create ill-will. He's always on the take for big bucks for personal appearances that demonstrate greet and hatred.

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Hes a peice of shit that only knows he wants to destroy the USA and the People ,who love freedom that live in it,,

Mickey.

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He's a community organizer. What the fuck would he know about business?

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"Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you’ve got a business -- you didn’t build that."

The People INVESTED in those roads and bridges...LOL hes got it ass backward.

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Where do the roads, bridges, ect. come from?

The Businesses...This is not a which came first ? Situation. If it werent for the small or big business collectively none of it would be possible at all. Why does this Governement always bite the hand that feeds it? Obama is looking the Gift Horse in the mouth.

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