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TOPIC: Overtime pay vs comp time: Will House bill benefit workers or their bosses
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But then businesses in the US would have to cut the pay of the top, because they can't cut the bottom anymore than they already have. Worst yet, you would destroy one cancer of our business models.... Oh my word... You speak as if you foolishly want to save the US and capitalism.

Like most of the middle east (point to Syria and its rebels) we are driven by idea, greed and personal wealth, they the middle east, religious zealotry. So long as we are so afflicted, we cannot be saved, our misurry only prolonged.

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Robert....Canada has had laws against liquidation of assets over potential profits for decades, and the US could enact similar laws and still allow the scumbag private equity folks to have their fun.....just without the option of selling off assets as a means to profit

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"There are people at all levels of Government who do NOTHING 8 x 5 but gear up to squash the type of conduct you are talking about."

That is exactly why the employees won't stand up, because the employers will simply close up shop and leave... As they always do when the government is called in or too many employees sue and win.

Think raiders. Businessmen come in, they take advantage of the 7 years of no local taxes and then leave the moment the judges catch onto their game. Those employers who remain, pick up the employees who lost their jobs, because the plant or other closed as a result of suit or government stepping in.

This is why I am in favor of the government reopening the job as a government job, so to tell the employers that if all they wish to do is be raiders, then they will leave and the people will retain their employment as the government will reopen the factory or other and make contracts with people to sell products...

Then turn those profits directly over to the employees as wages, which should grow the local economy. In time and as the government employees who run this government factory gain skills and or experience in its operation... They could buy it from the government after it has become established and stable.

It isn't perfect capitalism... It is capitalism on life support provided by socialism near communism, but it is the only way I see fighting the local raiders.

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Vacp:

I fully intend to leave this area as soon as I can... Right after I obtain my degree in sonography and a job in that field... Or hollywood picks up one of my books and I become filthy rich.

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Robert...you need to get out into the real world a little more often. I have no doubt what you are talking about happens, but I also have no doubt in is a nothing but a blip on the screen in the big picture, and happens because employees are intimated and don't call the employers bluff. There are people at all levels of Government who do NOTHING 8 x 5 but gear up to squash the type of conduct you are talking about.

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Robert I am not sure about where you live at but I would say that at least 90% of people in the work force are not contract employees. As far as not paying overtime. It is a Fed. law not a state law. Now there are ways around it that are legal but just not paying it will not float.I think it is time for you to move to another town or state. The place you live in is the most f*cked up place I have ever heard of.

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So if you are an employer, simply make a name for yourself and company as one which doesn't pay over time and let it be known through whispers within the company that if you demand overtime payment... Your employment prospects within the company become dim.

In short, if challenged by the employees, you pay it, but those employees who challenged you by requesting their fair pay end up on the shit list. (assigned jobs out of their initial job area, assigned shit hours, first to have hours cut, last for request for days off, the worst Schedual games played with. Ect...

Employers in hazleton do this all the time, they aren't sued because they claim clerical error and pay the overtime and then play the above mind games to make the emplyee mess up or reduce their job performance and give the employer an excuse to terminate.

In today's PC world, a raised voice can be a threat and the creation of a hostile work enviroment... So play head games with the employee(s) and get the few who dare demand fair pay to raise their voices.

Those excessively few employees who actually have the balls to sue for wrongful termination can then be told by the judge that they should have known this was the working conditions, that their employer would play games. (some magistrates have said this)

The ball is deeply in the employers favor.

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Robert,....in most states,m you can NOT opt out of time and a half for overtime if you are an hourly "non exempt" employee.

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First, nothing prevents the employers from doing this on their own with their employees as per a contract agreement. If there is a law, let's see it.

Secondly, more and more employers simply don't give over time as part of your employment. If you challenge them, they may pay you the over time, but you will soon find yourself in the unemployment line, future contracts denied and that no matter how good your work is it isn't good enough, so you will be terminated on grounds of poor work performance.

In the professional work enviroment, this is a kiss of death to your career.

As for pressure to take time off, over overtime pay? Easy employer solution. Contract work. You become hired to do a job for X hours a week. Fail to get the job done on time, your contract is terminated or not renewed.

The game is very much in the employers favor. Union or not.

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I think taking overtime and taking the time off depends on the individual and where they are in life. When i was younger, id have wanted the overtime where now im in a place luckily where i dont need or want the overtime. Now i jump at any time off i can get. Im just in a different place now in life....

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