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FORUMS General Discussions Politics Oct 22 2012 - Final Presidential Debate - Foreign Policy
TOPIC: Oct 22 2012 - Final Presidential Debate - Foreign Policy
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Obama is going to need a lot of help here, this is, if done right could potentially sway the vote Right, heavily.

Though Iran SHOULD be the most discussed, there should be major focus on Obama's actions of tossing allies and leaders of other countries under the bus (Yes, use that lingo). Overlooking human rights violations, in Syria, Saudi Arabia, Iran.

The deteriorating relationship with Russia. Failure to convince Russia and China to sanction Syria. Supporting Muslim Brotherhood, sending billions of dollars to Egypt, who's newly elected President, a former Muslim Brotherhood member (Leader?) isn't really certain whether we're a foe or an ally. Egypt, Libya, Tunisia etc.. were all more or less stable, until Obama set foot in office, bring that up. Iran's nuclear aspirations, progressing while Ahmadinejad continues to mock and threaten us. And as an injection of "humor" Romney should definitely touch on the fact that even the bid on the Olympics was lost by Obama. Libya, major focus on Libya and accuse the current administration of being responsible (directly) for the lives of four innocent Americans, which could have easily been avoided. Touch on the Israel/Palestinian negotiations tank. His one-sided pressure on Israel. Selling state of the art weapons to Saudi Arabia but not Israel. The drastic drop in the Jewish vote, that went from something like 78% in favor of the democratic party, to around 60% as of last week. Touch on his quote: "Jerusalem will remain the capital of Israel, and it must remain undivided" (AIPAC speech 6/4/2008). And how it all changed with his demand that Israel go back to the 1948 lines, completely exposed and vulnerable to the enemies that surround her. Touch on how Obama again and again humiliated Bibi in public. Romney should touch on Obama's *true feelings* about Bibi, which he expressed to Sarkozy while the microphone was on, and the entire world heard.

This, if presented properly can make a huge difference in swaying the undecided.

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*This is why the number of right leaning people are quicker to anger and violence. *

The most idiotic post of the day award!

These boards are enough to attest to the complete opposite. I wont even mention the morons that tried to occupy the USA just last year and all the violent incidents that they've caused.

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Outdoor:

Haven't you figured it out yet? The right needs someone to hate besides themselves.

This is why the number of right leaning people are quicker to anger and violence. Anger and hate feeds off of itself like a all consuming fire. Only once it has destroyed all in its path does it destroy itself.

This is why people as educated as VA will be caught saying things like bum hunts sound fun. Hate and anger respect no one to include themselves.

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The bottom line is that, since the last election, we are now 4 years closer to disengaging from military involvement in the middle east.

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Robme is going to have one more lie to defend though. And try to explain why he was trying to sabotage an active and ongoing national security event with his big mouth.

Washington Post: "The Romney campaign may have misfired with its suggestion that statements by President Obama and U.N. Ambassador Susan Rice about the Benghazi attack last month weren't supported by intelligence... 'Talking points' prepared by the CIA on Sept. 15, the same day that Rice taped three television appearances, support her description of the Sept. 11 attack on the U.S. Consulate as a reaction to Arab anger about an anti-Muslim video prepared in the United States."

Meanwhile, the Los Angeles Times reports the assault "appears to have been an opportunistic attack rather than a long-planned operation, and intelligence agencies have found no evidence that it was ordered by Al Qaeda."

This is going to be REALLY interesting seeing Robme try to weasel his way out of this fuckup. Too bad he doesn't have Candy Crowley to push around a little, I bet that would make him feel all kinds of better...

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Obama get's to talk about how talk has done nothing.

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Here's a solution to the problem... Have the UN's atomic agency oversee everyone's nuclear programs... Pull the worlds combined nuclear knowledge into one place.

It really won't matter in the end if you can build a nuke, shortly after test are done to the contamination zone, the world will know who gave their material to terrorist or launched the attack. We treat these developing nations with the same respect and rules that we live by, they will have no grounds to complain about disrespect or being treated poorly.

In the worst case situation, we are in the same boat that we are now, only we have the superior hand internationally as the rest of the world will be against Iran. (providing you could get this passed before the UN.) in the best case (admittedly unlikely) we defuse the situation and tensions are lowered.

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"Strategic Affairs Minister Moshe Ya’alon said Sunday morning that Israel knew of secret US-Iran talks, and NBC reported that the Obama administration admitted that back-channel talks have been in progress for a direct meeting on its nuclear program. So far, Iran has balked.

The New York Times earlier reported that Iran and the United States have agreed to a face-to-face meeting on Iran’s nuclear program. After initial denials of the report, an unnamed Obama administration official clarified to NBC that despite talks on staging talks, no agreement has been concluded for bilateral discussions and that Iran knows there will be no such agreement if it does not abandon its unsupervised nuclear development.

Ya’alon told Voice of Israel government radio, “It is no secret there are attempts to have direct contact between Iran and the United States, and the report in The New York Times may be too early because it [a meeting] has not yet taken place.”

The leaked report may also be bad timing for President Barack Obama, an administration official told NBC. It comes one day before a critical third and final debate, this time strictly on foreign policy, between Obama and Republican candidate Mitt Romney, who has startled pollsters by taking the lead in most surveys.

“Iranian officials had insisted that the talks wait until after the presidential election so that they would know which president would be negotiating with them.” NBC reported, quoting the Obama administration official.

Iran will be a prime subject in Monday’s debate. Romney has succeeded in shifting the limelight to foreign policy and away from the economy, which statistics have shown may not be as weak as previously thought.

The Obama administration's stumbled reaction to the terrorist attack in Libya that killed the American ambassador and three other Americans gave the Romney campaign a shot in the arm.

The Republican candidate has consistently hammered away at Obama for allowing Iran to advance its program for nuclear capability, while Obama has tried to label Romney as a man who would risk dragging the United States into war at the expense of domestic needs.

Romney also said in a recent speech in the swing state of Virginia that Obama “has failed to lead in Syria.”

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