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TOPIC: Obamacare Health Care For All - Almost
Created by: Seduction4Two
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"A Taco Bell employee in Guthrie, Okla., is speaking out after the fast-food franchise cut her hours to avoid costs associated with Obamacare, reports News9.

For Johnna Davis, a single mother of three who saw her hours fall in December to 28 hours a week, the change not only means a smaller paycheck. It also strips her of the right to receive health benefits from Taco Bell, a right that would have kicked in under Obamacare in 2014 had the franchise continued to give Davis a full-time schedule of hours.

Owners of fast-food franchises across the nation are blind-siding hourly employees by cutting their weekly hours -- and, in turn, their paychecks -- to dodge Obamacare costs.

The new law, which obliges businesses with more than 50 employees to offer benefits to staffers averaging at least 30 hours of work per week, doesn’t take effect until Jan. 1, 2014. But to determine whether employees work enough hours on average to receive benefits, businesses must track schedules at least three months in advance of 2014, prompting some bosses to begin restructuring payrolls now. "

It's happening all around here.

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Sedu:

I think the term you seek is sadism.

Hazle Township PA
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Eww, you give me the creeps when you call me the same term of endearment that you used to call you 92 year old next door hottie! The one you used to JOOM in on before she died.

Degrading? You yourself posted about sticking needles into your shmeckle! Does that mean you're into self degradation?

Rumson NJ
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Rdy2Playwany1,

Is Obamacare going to pay for your penis injections? And who will pay for buba, the male nurse to administer them, since you are unable to see your uncooperative shmeckle?

Rumson NJ
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Too complicated, too much work and too much personal responsibility for you Mark? When an article says things some "some believe" "some say" and "some worry", like the one you posted, I completely disregard the content. "Some say Marcia Blackburn and Sarah Palin had a threesum with a goat" Prove that wrong

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Well the draft copy for applying for Obama Care is being released for review. It is 15 pages long (60 pages of explanations) and will be sent to at least three different federal agencies for review to see what kind of care you are entitled to: WASHINGTON (AP) — Applying for benefits under President Barack Obama's health care overhaul could be as daunting as doing your taxes. The government's draft application runs 15 pages for a three-person family. An outline of the online version has 21 steps, some with additional questions. Seven months before the Oct. 1 start of enrollment season for millions of uninsured Americans, the idea that getting health insurance could be as easy as shopping online at Amazon or Travelocity is starting to look like wishful thinking. At least three major federal agencies, including the IRS, will scrutinize your application. Checking your identity, income and citizenship is supposed to happen in real time, if you apply online. That's just the first part of the process, which lets you know if you qualify for financial help. The government asks to see what you're making because Obama's Affordable Care Act is means-tested, with lower-income people getting the most generous help to pay premiums. Once you're finished with the money part, actually picking a health plan will require additional steps, plus a basic understanding of insurance jargon. And it's a mandate, not a suggestion. The law says virtually all Americans must carry health insurance starting next year, although most will just keep the coverage they now have through their jobs, Medicare or Medicaid. Some are concerned that a lot of uninsured people will be overwhelmed and simply give up. "This lengthy draft application will take a considerable amount of time to fill out and will be difficult for many people to be able to complete," said Ron Pollack, executive director of Families USA, an advocacy group supporting the health care law. "It does not get you to the selection of a plan." "When you combine those two processes, it is enormously time consuming and complex," added Pollack. He's calling for the government to simplify the form and, more important, for an army of counselors to help uninsured people navigate the new system. It's unclear who would pay for these navigators. Drafts of the paper application and a 60-page description of the online version were quietly posted online by the Health and Human Services Department, seeking feedback from industry and consumer groups. Those materials, along with a recent HHS presentation to insurers, run counter to the vision of simplicity promoted by administration officials. "We are not just signing up for a dating service here," said Sam Karp, a vice president of the California HealthCare Foundation, who nonetheless gives the administration high marks for distilling it all into a workable form. Karp was part of an independent group that separately designed a model application. The government estimates its online application will take a half hour to complete, on average. If you need a break, or have to gather supporting documents, you can save your work and come back later. The paper application is estimated to take an average of 45 minutes. The new coverage starts next Jan. 1. Uninsured people will apply through new state-based markets, also called exchanges.

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there will be new customers because companies will cut hours and hire more part time workers so they don't have to provide health care.

FOR ALL THE RHETORIC, VIRYUALLY EVERY COMPANY THAT HAS INSTIGATED THE POSSIBILITY HAS DETERMINED IT IS NEITHER PRODUCTIVE OR COST EFFECTIVE

So people will have to go to an insurance mills to get it. So the companies in the mills will get together and set there prices so the people will end up paying more. So much for cheaper health care.

THE SECRETARY OF HHS CAN BUMP ANY COMPANY FOUND TO BE PRICE FIXING OR NOT MAKING A GOOD FAITH EFFORT TO HOLD DOWN COSTS FROM ANY STATE EXCHANGE

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New customers?

Yes....between 27 and 33 million of them depending on who you believe. ALL headed to their state exchange, ALL shopping for the best deal This is what cracks me up about people calling Obamacare "socialist" It is in fact, the very DEFINITION of classic American regulated free market capitalism

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I believe what will happen is the companies in the exchange will also be offering insurance outside of the exchanges. The people looking for insurance in the exchanges will be those who either can't find a policy on their own, or who don't know how to look for insurance on their own.

What I've seen of exchanges in the past is the people who are looking there for insurance couldn't get insurance elsewhere, so the rates for the companies in the exchange are higher than what can be had elsewhere.

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the state of tenneessee will not have exchanges,our govener said......BS

Kingston TN
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Yea there will be new customers because companies will cut hours and hire more part time workers so they don't have to provide health care. So people will have to go to an insurance mills to get it. So the companies in the mills will get together and set there prices so the people will end up paying more. So much for cheaper health care and making a living wage at your job.Kinda hard to improve the economy and job market passing more dumb ass bills that they had no idea what was in it. Like Pelosi said let's pass it we will figure it out as we go, real smart LOL

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