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Vacp:

This isn't about me, it is about this nation. It is about the wealthy learning that they must provide for the lessers or the lessers will take from them vie the power of the vote or the point of weapons.

In this nation, the point of weapons is no longer an option. As proven by Vietnam and other wars where the military fought insurgents... Even the insurgents would have lost if not for the public fearing the insurgents more than our military.

So the power of the vote is the weapon against the wealthy who do not pay their fair share.

No man ought to work more than one job, if they are, they aren't being paid fairly a wage for living in a first world nation. If you think otherwise, you are trapped in a case of Stockholm syndrome or are personally benefiting from forcing others to work what most every civilized nation considers to be unacceptable conditions.

You, not I are the problem. So man up and learn to fight for your right to be treated as a man, paid fairly and a wage which living in a first world nation commands or remain angry and in your lone world while the rest of this nation carries your dead weight.

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They are all guilty of this crap. New political footballs for politicians to have an 11th hour emergency with all the time. It's complete crap.

Scare tactics. Bush did it with terror alerts, now Obama is doing it with the budget. What's sad is the younger generation buy it, and think the sky is falling. where as most of us who have been there done that and have some understanding of history know this isn't the first time we have been here and it wont be the last.


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This will be second documented time that Obama has gave money to the very people we are supposed to be at war with, al-Qaeda. And what will he say when it backfires as it did in Libya.

Amen.

Now I can see us helping the refugees who have fled the country. THAT would be the right thing to do. But helping the people whos ultimate goal is to build a sunni empire in down right stupid.


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As a general bitchfest:

I am tired of Government building these stupid little timebombs into the budget. Every few months we have a new crisis because some dumbass deal was struck a few years ago and now the world is going to end if we don't (whatever). They are all guilty of this crap. New political footballs for politicians to have an 11th hour emergency with all the time. It's complete crap.

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"What if we gave the President everything he wants?

Maybe everyone who wants a job would have one, and we all would have health care?

Infrastructure would be improved, and global warming would be averted, and our children and grandchildren would actually have a future? "

Do you really believe that?

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Robert stop blaming the rich for your problems. Man up and move on with your life. When I was 18 I was working 2-3 jobs to have what I needed to live on my own. I left my Mothers house with in a month of getting out of school and have not been back to live. I have been married and divorced and have managed to live a good life. I do have several trade skills that I have learned that allows me to maintain my life style. But until you grow up and start being a man you will be living in the basement.

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Fjep:

Every time you buy oil or other middle east products, you fund the terrorist we fight. That is simply how a global economy works.

Now the Syrian issue is different than the Egyptian issue and thus we ought not help the Rebels. They do in fact have fighters who fought against us.. Some of whom might even have shot at my father and killed some of the men he served with.

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VA:

Yes we have a spending problem, but that problem is caused by the richer in this nation not paying their employees better and thus their employees are unable to create the demand which employees more people in this nation.

So as the money is trapped in the hands of fewer and fewer people, more people must do with less. As more people must do with less relative to the rich, the people at the base naturally turn to their power of the vote and demand from the government to take from the top and give to the bottom.

For every 1USD taken from the top, half is taken away by cost of taxation. So you must take 2USD. That is simply the cost of greed.

Now if you decide that going through with these cuts are the way to go... I will thank you very much for this foolishness on your part. You will promote the liberal progressive ideals through causing more suffering upon the people and thus their willingness to turn to the government will increase.

You will prove my point for me. You don't have to do this you know, you could open a history book and read about how business pushed the public toward the government to provide for them...

You could read about how in Russia before Communism, things were worst than they were here in the states and thus why they went so far that they became communist and like a rubber band bounced back from the rubber bands full extension to a mixed economy. (no group of people on a national scale are ready for communism... yet.)

Sadly you won't educate yourself on what is natural for the public to do, you will stand there in your home and bitch about how no one works anymore and you will demand that these cuts go through. You will then in time find yourself paying 2x more than you do now in taxes, when you could have accepted paying .5 more and then reducing welfare over time by forcing reason onto the greedy and having them bleed more money to the public through paying their employees more and driving up demand for services which would make it easier for new businesses to open up.

Your greed is what will feed socialism in this nation, greed never sees this coming until it is too late.

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This will be second documented time that Obama has gave money to the very people we are supposed to be at war with, al-Qaeda. And what will he say when it backfires as it did in Libya.

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Vacp:

The answer is complex and multifacited, but lets examine it.

Israel might have a kick ass military force when put against another military force. But if they are drawn into city fighting, their tech is as useless as our own... Unless Israel decides to throw international law to the wind and kill every living human between their troops and their targets.

So if Egypt fails, if it is totally handed over to the radicals. Israel will have yet another angry, backwards thinking, radical nation on their hands.

It is basically why we have social welfare in the US to begin with. As the public becomes more hungry, they turn to whom ever can provide them with the minimum of society.

For a religious people who live in conditions which are only best described as the third world or barely developing to a better condition than the third world... Religion is that more, it is still their driving force in their lives because they have nothing else as it stands now.

Let me put it to you like this. If it hasn't been for the Roosevelt republicans of the 1920s/1930s.... and if not for WWII. This nation would likely be a socialist nation right now.

Why? Because conservatives would have told the starving masses (as the result of the dust bowl and depression) to fend for yourselves. They would, they would band together with whom ever promised them better and they would either through the power of their votes or through force of arms (which at the time was still possible, but not today) would change this country into a more socialist nation.

That is why we give Egypt money.

We also give them technology, namely weapons tech, because we know what they can do with it and so does Israel. Would you rather they have Russian or Chinese weapons? Weapons not dependent upon our manufacturers for parts?

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