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Can we please ban the use of the word "feudal" by anyone who doesn't know what the fuck it actually means?

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Can't say I agree with that either. So I'd probably fall somewhere in the middle then. If the law simply stated that union membership cannot be forced upon anyone, I'd be fine with that. But I still don't like the idea of telling unions that they can't charge membership dues. Long standing members will likely continue to pay out of loyalty that's been built up over 10 or 20 years, but younger workers just joining or future workers who haven't had the benefit of union protection throughout their lives probably will be less inclined to pay since they can get the same protection for free. On the surface, it really does seem like a crippling blow to unions.

Admittedly, I don't know much about unions or union law, so I probably have a really simplistic point of view on it.

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They should continue with their logic and pass a law that Michigan residents don't have to pay taxes if they don't want to, yet they can still enjoy the benefits of a civilized state.

It's solid proof that some people have way too much money, when they spend it on efforts to create a feudalistic society. The middle class is being turned into a bunch of peons, so that the lords of this society can have dirt-cheap labor at their beck and call.

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(Posted by a member of one of the groups that I belong to. He was once an active member of the forums)

Below is an excerpt from Article 5 of one of the CBA's I am signature to, and which apparently holds up in court- Taft Hartley be damned. It cost me and several other employers a WHOLE LOT OF MONEY to find out this holds up in Minnesota:

“An Employee performing work covered by this agreement must become and remain a member in good standing of the Union as a condition of employment for an Employer. The Employee must become a member in good standing of the Union by no later than the eighth (8th) day following the beginning of employment or the effective date of this agreement, whichever is later.

The Employer agrees to dismiss Employees who refuse to become members of the Union as required above. The Union agrees to notify the employer in writing of all Employees who have not joined the Union.”

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"It is precisely because I am pro choice, I'm glad to see the governor sign a bill that gives Americans the ability to choose if they want to join a union or not. "

Correct me if I'm wrong, but there was never any requirement to join a union in the first place. It was always a personal choice. Just like the Hostess strike, the union was not working but the non-union employees were still showing up to work everyday.

And if I'm understanding the law correctly, it more or less states that union workers don't have to pay union dues if they don't want to. A union is, in essence, a private club. It's no different than the Lions Club or the VFW or the Boy Scouts. All of which require membership fees. Will the gov't try telling these clubs that they can no longer require members to pay? Probably not since none of those organizations are in the business of protecting the working man.

I've said here before that unions sometimes do more harm than good, but those cases are rare and more often than not, they are doing right by their members. But I'm still a pro-union guy (and no, I don't belong to one. Never have.).

I have a big big problem with this law simply for the fact that the gov't is overstepping it's bounds.

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Which is the greater act of violence?

An individual smearing feces on a storefront window, or one of the largest banks in the world laundering money for drug kingpins and terrorists?

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Leaves right after VA, completely confused.

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The alternative to might is weakness.

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Serves me right for wandering back in here.

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I am completely lost, I don't understand how Iraq entered into conversation, I re-read the thread, and see no mention of it until VA mentioned it.

Tbr, are you suggesting that, signing this into law is = an act of violence?

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