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Mark:

WE are a nation of 310 to 320 million people. 14 million isn't even 5% So lets bump it up to 20 million people to count the elderly as well. Now we are a little over 5% or close enough to it.

If our economy is so weak that 5% is even a road bumb... We need to stop crying over the people within that 5% who game the system and blame the people who aren't paying a wage which allows the workers to be taxed.

Similually we need to start blaming employers who choose to work their employees so hard that they quit.

Beast of burden which are beaten and forced to do too much work stop working... Unless you intend to take these beast of burden to the glue factory when they stop... You get to deal with them when they choose to stop working, even if they aren't physically damaged.

Want to say just don't pay them SSI? Go ahead and watch the crime rate skyrocket.

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The Frogx News Ciircus is one the low-level entertainment theatres on the Andromeda Galaxy.

An intergalalctic 'Sanford & Son' parody is a junkyard comedy favorite in this local universe.

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Cue Robert: If the evil rich would provide......

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Has disability become a 'de facto welfare program'? By Barbara Raab, Senior Producer, NBC News When President Clinton signed "welfare reform" into law in 1996, he promised to end welfare as we know it. Now, some new reporting suggests we've created a new kind of welfare -- only most Americans aren't aware of it. The number of people who depend on checks from Social Security's disability programs has soared in recent years, according to NPR's series "Unfit for Work: the Startling Rise of Disability in America." The reports, which began over the weekend and continue this week, raise the question: How disabled are the recipients, really? As you might imagine, they have touched a nerve. A quick primer: the Supplemental Security Income (SSI) program provides monthly cash assistance to people who are poor and disabled, including families with disabled children. The basic monthly SSI cash benefit is a set amount -- currently $710 for an individual and $1,066 for a couple. The Social Security Disability Insurance (SSDI) program also provides monthly cash assistance, to disabled people who have worked in jobs covered by Social Security. People who leave the workforce and go on disability also qualify for Medicare. After six months of investigation, NPR reporter Chana Joffee-Walt concluded that Social Security's disability programs have become "a de facto welfare program for people without a lot of education or job skills." In the past three decades, she reports, the number of Americans who are on disability has skyrocketed: Every month, 14 million people now get a disability check from the government. The federal government spends more money each year on cash payments for disabled former workers than it spends on food stamps and welfare combined. Who goes on them, and why, and what happens after that -- is, to a large extent, the story of the U.S. economy. It's the story not only of an aging workforce, but also of a hidden, increasingly expensive safety net. Joffee-Walt's report takes listeners to Hale County, Ala., where one in four working-age adults is on disability, a local doctor is the go-to-guy for people in pain, and on "the day government checks come in every month, banks stay open late, Main Street fills up with cars, and anybody looking to unload an old TV or armchair has a yard sale" because people are relatively flush with cash. She takes us inside "the disability industrial complex," including one of the private call centers that states pay to scrutinize their welfare rolls, contact as many people as possible who might qualify for federal disability payments, and move them off the state's rolls and into the federal disability system. The PCG [Public Consulting Group] agents help the potentially disabled fill out the Social Security disability application over the phone. And by help, I mean the agents actually do the filling out. When the potentially disabled don't have the right medical documentation to prove a disability, the agents at PCG help them get it. They call doctors' offices; they get records faxed. If the right medical records do not exist, PCG sets up doctors' appointments and calls applicants the day before to remind them of those appointments. Joffee-Walt also reports on the 1.3 million kids on SSI, and says that some parents in Hale County told her they want kids who can "pull a check" so the family gets extra income. She suggests that some families who are surviving on that check may be holding their kids back from overcoming disabilities because they don't want to lose the money.

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From the OP: "The Obama years have seen unprecedented growth in spending on what used to be known as the federal "anti-poverty" or "welfare" programs: means-tested initiatives to provide food, health insurance, housing benefits, and income support to the poor."

Apparently I misunderstood the topic. Thanks for clearing that up PP.

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I've watched more than a second of Fox News. It's kind of like watching the circus clowns fool around in their tent before they go out. Then you realize, that was it! That's all they've got!

Mother Jones of course brought us the famous 47 Percent video of Mitt Romney's nightmare. Real stuff, not like the Onion or Fox.

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Anyone who has ever watched a second of Fox news has no business questioning ANY other news source

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Mother Jones as a source! Kind of like The Onion, (boy did I learn about that)Pravda or Rolling Stone.

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Where the Welfare really goes

motherjones . com/politics/2011/11/states-federal-taxes-spending-charts-maps

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Good catch- I don't think so. Not sure if that was his quote or if the reporter screwed it up. I believe Minneapolis is higher than 18% though.

A lot of "refugees" here. Somalis settled in Mpls., Hmongs settled in St. Paul. From what I can tell.

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