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User Details are only visible to members.	"It's been said before but it's worth repeating. Only in America can a bunch of idiots fight for the rights of the rich instead of the workers..." We are talking about the Non Union worker who just lost their job because the Union didn't want to take a cut. 50% discrepancy between Union and Non Union workers in wages greedy can be described at both ends of the equation.
Saint Louis MO			Username hidden (12119 post)

User Details are only visible to members.	"I would have to disagree about the unions killing their jobs being a good thing, simply to spite the Romney like businessmen. In the long run, such out of control actions would be just as bad as union killing employers." I agree, it works both ways and it is not a question of spite. I would rather see a company go out of business and it's employees out looking for work then to be humiliated at the expense of owners with more money then they could spend in ten lifetimes. It's also about more then just money. For example what if employees have to work under conditions that could lead to premature death or disability. I personally would rather see that company have to fold shop. Yes, those employees would be out of a job, but, at least alive and well to look for another.
Cape Coral FL			Username hidden (4080 post)

User Details are only visible to members.	"no retail store or fast food joint I have ever worked for or been involved with has evey give benefits to their non management employees. but then again maybe that was just the south, I don't know. maybe the rest of the country was doing something different. My point is they are all screaming that Oboma is making them do this, LIERS, they have always done it." I have friends who worked for Target and Publics for many years down here in Florida, in non management positions and have benefits. Fast food IMO is different as many jobs are filled by High School kids saving up for their first car. I believe Publics was at one time considered one of the top five companies to work for. I will say that your point is well taken and that point is exactly the reason Unions came to be in the first place. As to the rest of the country doing something different, they did up North. It was called Unions.
Cape Coral FL			Username hidden (4080 post)

User Details are only visible to members.	Lqqk: I would have to disagree about the unions killing their jobs being a good thing, simply to spite the Romney like businessmen. In the long run, such out of control actions would be just as bad as union killing employers. All I can say is that if the right want to gen he government out of their lives... They best pick up their big boy pants and start providing for the people. Failure to do so will result in the government taking over more areas of the economy and taxing everyone for it. I would rather have an employer healthcare plan than Obamacare, if the employer provided care provided more than empty promises and never ending threats of loosing the benefits. I would rather not rely upon welfare, but if the private employer won't provide... Than they must be taxed so the government can provide a subsadized work force. If the businessman doesn't start acting like big boys/girls... The government will treat the businessman like a child and reduce their freedoms. Personally I must have had abusive parents growing up, because by now my parents would have paddled my ass red for the actions of these here businessmen.
Hazle Township PA			Username hidden (4808 post)

User Details are only visible to members.	"What democracies/republics does he discuss? " Well, the first paragraph of the OP is generally attributed to Alexander Fraser Tytler. He studied Greece and Rome as well as others. What democracies have you studied? What sources do you have that dispute the premise?
Pittsburgh PA			Username hidden (14597 post)

User Details are only visible to members.	LQQKN, What your talking about is nothing new, I was doing that 30yrs ago. At biglots we never gave any part time workers more than 10 to 15 hours a week in 3 to 4 hour shifts.Thats because by law we couldn't schedule less thn a 3hr shift and if we gave them more than 4 they got a 15min "free" break and the company didn't want to pay them to sit on their ass for 15mins. BENEFITS what the hell are those, no retail store or fast food joint I have ever worked for or been involved with has evey give benifits to their non management employees. but then again maybe that was just the south, I don't know. maybe the rest of the country was doing something different. My point is they are all screaming that Oboma is making them do this, LIERS, they have always done it.
New Orleans LA			Username hidden (2188 post)

User Details are only visible to members.	"Your unions did wonders with Hostess. Guess 18,500 jobs is small enough to fail, aka destroyed by union demands." I agree with you, they did. They made the Romney/Bain's richer. That was their (Romney/Bain) plan from the get go, but you will never see that. Honestly I'm glad they (Unions) destroyed the company, under those condition's. If Unions destroyed more companies there would be no Romney/Bain's left.
Cape Coral FL			Username hidden (4080 post)

User Details are only visible to members.	"So don't let these service businesses blow smoke up your ass, they arn't cutting anyones hours from full time to part time, you can't cut hours that you were never giving out." It's not a question of cutting hours, but dividing those hours. Hiring two people @ twenty hours=no benifits or lunch breaks as oposed to hiring one person @ fourty hours and benifits. Besides you are only picking out one small part of the entire problem, it's more then just benifits.
Cape Coral FL			Username hidden (4080 post)

User Details are only visible to members.	LQQKNFORU Walmart has always done business like that, That's what I find so silly about all these business telling everyone they are going to have to go to part time workes, they have always used a majority of low waged part time workers. How many full time pizzia deliver boys or burger flippers,stock boys ,ect do people think exist. Does anyone think that dumb chick who can't speak english, taking your order at Mickey d's is working full time, she's doing good to pull 15 hours a week. Hell when i woked for big lots 8yrs ago , we only had 5 hourly full time employees ofout of 30 to 35 employees. So don't let these service businesses blow smoke up your ass, they arn't cutting anyones hours from full time to part time, you can't cut hours that you were never giving out.
New Orleans LA			Username hidden (2188 post)

User Details are only visible to members.	Ghost, I would prefer a mature and intelligent discussion over a puerile "battle" to see who has more verbal machismo. Sorry that you see it that way.
San Quentin CA			Username hidden (8604 post)

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