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User Details are only visible to members.	Big: The only people saying that they want anything for free is you republicans. You want tax breaks. You want to pay your employees less. And you want to make more personal wealth. Guess what? You can't make shit if the employees can't spend money. You can't be given tax breaks and new roads, bridges, infulatructure and security unless you are taxed for it. The people can't be taxes to pay for these thing did they don't have wealth to be taxed. The only people crying are the rich.
Hazle Township PA			Username hidden (4775 post)

User Details are only visible to members.	a type of soical program,soical security is a soicalist program,it broke,been rob,and can not be susianted.a typical libbers soical program.just like all soicalist programs that don't work.and yet libbers are crying the loudest that people on the program are robbing them when they are the ones that put this program in place.in fact congress is the ones robbing this program so they can pay for people who won't work or want obastercare.free this or ffree that.I want a free car,free tv,free food,free what the fuck ever.the one on here that wants soicalism,then turn around and cries about we are robbing him.well cry me a river......BS
Kingston TN			Username hidden (1912 post)

User Details are only visible to members.	Good: If a nation has so many unemployable people, as to be concerned about... Then that nation has some kind of plague which is damaging the people. Unemployable are the mentally and physically disabled. There are those who aren't built for some jobs. (such as myself.) who won't be able to develope upper body strength in an acceptable amount of time to not be a burden to a construction company. (lifting 50-75 pounds three fights of steps in two minutes for 8-12 hours a day) However such under-developed people can still do other things. Guard duty, janitorial work, bus driving, ect. Only once each and every job is filled and you still have a surplus of able bodied workers can you say they aren't employable... Because there aren't any more jobs. Now I work full time. If I lived on my own. I would be in a shack without most utilities. If I had kids, I would receive welfare from the government... If I was a single no children woman, I could still find some kind of welfare program. The bottom line is, my employer doesn't pay enough to not subsadize that pay so to add to the national economy. That is why there is less demand for the number of employed persons. That is why there are fewer and fewer jobs in total and why we had leaped ahead from the 1800s to the 1900s and crawled the later years of the 1900s into the 2000s.
Hazle Township PA			Username hidden (4775 post)

User Details are only visible to members.	"First is why was there a need for any social welfare programs in the first place? Answer: the wealthy didn't pay their workers enough so to stay off the social safety nets." You do understand there are people who are unemployable, and never will be employable don't you?
Brooklyn Park MN			Username hidden (2576 post)

User Details are only visible to members.	Mark: Ok, show me where I said anything without fact. What does Cyprus make? What do they sell to the outside world? Any national economy built on tourism is a economy based on the markets and banking alone. Such forms of economics cannot sustain a population forever. Sure the only solution I can foresee is the exact solutions we have always used. Expansion. If you have another which works and doesn't end with the lost of civility and or civilization, let's hear it.
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User Details are only visible to members.	Robert: Your post is completely void of anything fact. You again posted nothing but nonsence.
Tulare CA			Username hidden (1881 post)

User Details are only visible to members.	And all of this can be traced to two facts. First is why was there a need for any social welfare programs in the first place? Answer: the wealthy didn't pay their workers enough so to stay off the social safety nets. Second; why are there social safety nets to begin with? Answer: to prevent instability as seen in nations where there are no nets. Often times no growth, but a few with all the money. Cyprus has built its economy on banking, on fake money. All systems built solely on banking are systems which are a hair breath away from collapse and destined to fail. As manufacturing jobs become fewer with the advancement of technology, we will be left with fewer jobs that the majority can preform. Short of genocide based upon income levels, you are faced with a major problem... How to employ no skilled workers. Why are they no skilled workers? Because a machine took their job. It isn't coming back, and to use the few individuals who claim to keep reinventing themselves ahead of everyone else as an example of what millions must do, is not practical. This isn't a new problem. This virus called humanity simply has out grown its peetrydish. We might not have the tech to leave the earth, but we have no other alternative but to start colonizing the moon and stable asteroids. This is the patteren we have followed sense time immortal. An area becomes over populated, we moved on, conquored the locals or exterminated them and reduced the burden else where.
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User Details are only visible to members.	Another European socialist model of economics is going down. BRUSSELS (Reuters) - The euro zone struck a deal on Saturday to hand Cyprus a bailout worth 10 billion euros ($13 billion), but demanded depositors in its banks forfeit some money to stave off bankruptcy despite the risks of a wider run on savings. The eastern Mediterranean island becomes the fifth country after Greece, Ireland, Portugal and Spain to turn to the euro zone for financial help during the region's debt crisis. In a radical departure from previous aid packages - and one that gave rise to incredulity and anger across the country - euro zone finance ministers forced Cyprus' savers to pay up to 10 percent of their deposits to raise almost 6 billion euros. Almost half of its depositors are believed to be non-resident Russians, but most of those queuing on Saturday at automatic teller machines to pull out cash appeared to be Cypriots. "I wish I was not the minister to do this," Cypriot Finance Minister Michael Sarris said after 10 hours of late-night talks in Brussels where the package was hammered out. "Much more money could have been lost in a bankruptcy of the banking system or indeed of the country," he said, adding that he hoped a levy and bailout would mark a new start for Cyprus. Without a rescue, Cyprus would default and undermine the investor confidence in the euro zone that has been built up by the European Central Bank's promise last year to do whatever it takes to shore up the currency bloc. The bailout was smaller than initially expected and is mainly needed to recapitalize Cypriot banks that were hit by a sovereign debt restructuring in Greece. The deposit levy - set at 9.9 percent on bank deposits exceeding 100,000 euros and at 6.7 percent on anything below that - will take place on Tuesday after a bank holiday on Monday. 'THEFT, PURE AND SIMPLE' To guard against capital flight, Cyprus will take immediate steps to prevent electronic money transfers over the weekend. In the coastal town of Larnaca, where irate depositors queued early to withdraw money from cash machines, co-op credit societies that are normally open on Saturdays stayed closed. "I'm extremely angry. I worked years and years to get it together and now I am losing it on the say-so of the Dutch and the Germans," said British-Cypriot Andy Georgiou, 54, who returned to Cyprus in mid-2012 with his savings. "They call Sicily the island of the mafia. It's not Sicily, it's Cyprus. This is theft, pure and simple," said a pensioner. The levy breaks a euro zone taboo by hitting bank depositors with losses. It prompted Spain, considered the next most likely state to seek a sovereign rescue though supported in recent months by the ECB's debt promise, to deny savers in other countries risked being similarly penalized. The bailout was specific to Cyprus and its bloated banking sector and "could not be extrapolated to any other country," an economy ministry source said. In Brussels, Dutch Finance Minister Jeroen Dijsselbloem said it would not otherwise have been possible to save Cyprus's financial sector which, compared with national economic output, is more than twice as big as the EU average. "As it is a contribution to the financial stability of Cyprus, it seems just to ask for a contribution of all deposit holders," Dijsselbloem, who chaired the ministerial meeting, told reporters. The island's bailout had repeatedly been delayed amid concerns from other EU states that its close business relations with Russia, and a banking system flush with Russian cash, made it a conduit for money-laundering. In return for emergency loans, Cyprus agreed to increase its corporate tax rate by 2.5 percentage points to 12.5 percent. This should boost revenues, limiting the size of the loan needed from the euro zone and keep down public debt. Cypriot President Nicos Anastasiades called a meeting of party leaders for Saturday night to brief them on the bailout.
Tulare CA			Username hidden (1881 post)

User Details are only visible to members.	"In order to answer that question,would we not first have to define poor?" IMO. people who through fault of no fault of their own are not self sufficient.
Cape Coral FL			Username hidden (4080 post)

User Details are only visible to members.	why are people poor In order to answer that question,would we not first have to define poor?
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