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well angel,

The goddamn feds should then be responsible to the states to pay to incarcerate these people that committ crimes that shouldn't even be in the country. If the feds won't enforce the laws then it falls to the states and municipalities to protect their citizens.

The govt keeps caving to the mexicans and won't secure our borders... what are we suppose to do, just let the illegals take over?

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well angel,

The goddamn feds should then be responsible to the states to pay to incarcerate these people that committ crimes that shouldn't even be in the country. If the feds won't enforce the laws then it falls to the states and municipalities to protect their citizens.

The govt keeps caving to the mexicans and won't secure our borders... what are we suppose to do, just let the illegals take over?

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On other thing. States CAN make additions to any federal law, in this case local statues SUPPORTING federal immigration laws. States CANNOT reject or makes laws that are COUNTER or opposite of federal statue.

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IMO federal law supports the Hazelton community. This was immediately appealed and I believe the appellate court will overrule the Judge and upheld Hazelton's rights to enforce those ordinances. The only precedent in the United States is a 1980s case in California where it was ruled that local communities not only have a right but a responsibility to uphold federal law. As far as enforcement, EVERY law enforcement officer across the United States takes an oath not only to support the laws of their city, community, county or state, but federal laws as well.

This judge made NO specific reference to any constitutional provision or past precedence in making this ruling. The Judge made it based on his personal opinion not any legal precedence or specific constitutional amendment. Also the decision was made where the complainants were left unnamed which is a violation of federal statue. The complainants must be able to show SPECIFIC and DISCRIMINATORY injury, yet none was made or cited. The town, the defendants, were not allowed to rebut or face any specific accuser or incident. Past precedence only allows faceless complainants in the cases of Health privacy needs, such as women who received an abortion and in cases where the complainant/victim is a minor.

Again, IMO, the Judge is in error and the Judge's decision will be overturned upon review by the appellate court.

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Christ Angel I never called ya stupid, I already explained that to ya, I was talking about the Justice system in that child rape case. Dude have an Oatmeal Cookie and a joint or something.....chill.......

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Whoa where in the constitution does a person who is here illegally have the same rights and protections as we do. I mean sure they should have basic rights that every human being should have, but come on? If they can not prove that they are citizens why not make them leave? I can understand the city's flustration, because the federal government is doing Jack Shit about the problem. This could lead to some very ugly discriminatory behavior in some cities. People are getting sick and tired of supporting people who break our laws to get and stay here, why should anyone do it the right way when there are no real consequences if you do it the wrong way. Shit it seems like more people get deported for Visas then they would for crossing the border illegally.

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Judge Strikes Down Hazleton's Illegal Immigrant Law Hazleton Mayor Calls Ruling Bizarre, Vows Appeal

POSTED: 1:30 pm EDT July 26, 2007 UPDATED: 4:19 pm EDT July 26, 2007

ALLENTOWN, Pa. -- A federal judge on Thursday struck down the city of Hazleton's tough crackdown on illegal immigrants, ruling unconstitutional a law that has been emulated by towns and cities around the nation.

The Illegal Immigration Relief Act, pushed by the city's Republican mayor last summer after two illegal immigrants were charged in a fatal shooting, was voided by U.S. District Judge James Munley following a nine-day trial in March. "This decision should be a blaring red stoplight for local officials thinking of copying Hazleton's misguided and unconstitutional law," said Witold J. Walczak, legal director of the American Civil Liberties Union of Pennsylvania, which represented the plaintiffs.

Mayor Lou Barletta called the decision bizarre and said he intends to file an appeal.

"This was a case where a federal judge protected the rights of anonymous illegal aliens," he told The Associated Press in a phone interview. "This fight's far from over."

Hazleton had sought to impose fines on landlords who rent to illegal immigrants and deny business permits to companies that give them jobs. A companion measure would have required tenants to register with City Hall and pay for a rental permit.

Barletta, chief proponent of the crackdown, contends illegal immigrants have brought drugs, crime and gangs to the city of more than 30,000, overwhelming police, schools and hospitals.

Hispanic groups and illegal immigrants sued in federal court to overturn the measures, saying they usurp the federal government's exclusive power to regulate immigration, deprive residents of their constitutional rights to equal protection and due process, and violate state and federal housing law.

In a 206-page opinion, Munley said the act was pre-empted by federal law and violated the plaintiffs' due process rights.

"Whatever frustrations ... the city of Hazleton may feel about the current state of federal immigration enforcement, the nature of the political system in the United States prohibits the city from enacting ordinances that disrupt a carefully drawn federal statutory scheme," Munley wrote.

"Even if federal law did not conflict with Hazleton's measures, the city could not enact an ordinance that violates rights the Constitution guarantees to every person in the United States, whether legal resident or not," he added.

Hazleton's act was copied by dozens of municipalities around the nation that believe the federal government hasn't done enough to stop illegal immigration. Munley's ruling does not affect those measures.

The city's lawyer, Kris Kobach, said there were "very serious errors" in the decision and predicted it would be overturned on appeal.

Hispanic immigrants began settling in large numbers in Hazleton several years ago, lured from New York, Philadelphia and other cities by cheap housing, low crime and the availability of work in nearby factories and farms. The city, situated 80 miles northwest of Philadelphia, estimates its population increased by more than 10,000 between 2000 and 2006.

Testimony during the trial pegged the city's illegal immigrant population at between 1,500 and 3,400.

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