John Kerry says there was NO bloodbath after the US left Viet Nam: Swingers Discussion 82962

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TOPIC: John Kerry says there was NO bloodbath after the US left Viet Nam

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User Details are only visible to members.	I think you're spinning it wrong. Shame on you! What John Kerry meant was that after the Navy evacuated the naval base at Mare Island (Vallejo, California) there was no blood bath subsequent to their departure. However, to this day, there are periodic shootings.
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User Details are only visible to members.	John Kerry's lies about the activities of the Swift boats were part of a larger pattern of deception. As a leader of the Vietnam Veterans Against the War (VVAW), Kerry testified before the Senate Committee on Foreign Relations on April 22, 1971, telling the Senators and a national audience that American troops "...had personally raped, cut off ears, cut off heads, taped wires from portable telephones to human genitals and turned up the power, cut off limbs, blown up bodies, randomly shot at civilians, razed villages in fashion reminiscent of Ghengis Khan, shot cattle and dogs for fun, poisoned food stocks, and generally ravaged the countryside of South Vietnam..." and accused the U.S. military of committing war crimes "on a day-to-day basis with the full awareness of officers at all levels of command." Kerry's charges were based on a VVAW conference called the "Winter Soldier Investigation" -- a leftist propaganda event funded primarily by Jane Fonda. None of the Winter Soldier "witnesses" Kerry cited were willing to sign affadavits, and their gruesome stories lacked the names, dates and places that would allow their claims to be tested. Few were willing to cooperate with military investigators. The Naval Investigative Service found that several of the veterans said to have given statements at Winter Soldier were in fact imposters using the name of real veterans. False testimony and exaggerations were primary characteristics of the war crimes disinformation campaign, and also of the VVAW itself. Executive Secretary Al Hubbard, for example, claimed to have been an Air Force Captain wounded in Vietnam piloting a transport plane. In fact, Hubbard had been a staff sergeant who was not a pilot and who was never assigned to Vietnam.
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User Details are only visible to members.	On June 6, 1971, John Kerry described the work of the Swift boats to the Washington Star as follows: "We established an American presence in most cases by showing the flag and firing at sampans and villages along the banks. Those were our instructions, but they seemed so out of line that we finally began to go ashore, against our orders, and investigate the villages that were supposed to be our targets. We discovered we were butchering a lot of innocent people, and morale became so low among the officers on those 'swift boats' that we were called back to Saigon for special instructions from Gen. Abrams. He told us we were doing the right thing. He said our efforts would help win the war in the long run. That's when I realized I could never remain silent about the realities of the war in Vietnam." What John Kerry told the Washington Star was a lie. Contrary to Kerry's claim, our consistent policy was to take every precaution to avoid harming civilians. On many occasions we did this at the cost of suffering additional casualties ourselves. We have interviewed hundreds of veterans who served on the Swift Boats or supported them, and there is simply no justification for Kerry's statement. Several members of our organization addressed the issue of atrocities during our May 4 press conference at the National Press Club in Washington, D.C.
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User Details are only visible to members.	ah she said attractive.
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User Details are only visible to members.	Jim, 6 months ago? You really expect me to remember something you said 6 months ago? sheesh I can't remember who I talked to on monday. Honestly I've got to implement that policy i've been thinking about. in your fee you get 2 phone calls a month and 2 meetings a year. Anything else is billed at 225 and hr.
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User Details are only visible to members.	well the mrs has commented that you're an attractive guy
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User Details are only visible to members.	the one you're using on the posts. You guys make a very nice looking couple.
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User Details are only visible to members.	by the way akron, Wanted to point out that that is a great picture you have up.
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User Details are only visible to members.	Ok akron, If you want to hire a NON DOUCHEBAG money manager let me know.
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User Details are only visible to members.	jim are you in the business?
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