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*On these forums, the right mistakes me for a communist or socialist. The left simply ignores what I say without engaging at all*

You wont find a single post from me, calling you a communist, or a socialist. I agree with some of what you say, disagree with a lot of what you say, and attribute it to your youth ;).

You'll grow out of it. You'll see.

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8inch:

I argue with everyone, because I don't align with either side.

My politics are ignored by both the left and right here because you all are a perfect example of the problems plaguing this nation.

Both sides on these forums throw insults all day long. Rarely have I seen anything which amounts to meaningful discussions. When someone with different ideas than yours appear, you bit into them like they are the enemy, insulting them too.

Maybe it is you that need to learn some objectivity? Take what is said, write it down and study the politics behind what is said.

Generally I agree with you, outdoors, and the general left. This is why I am a center leaning left. But I lean left, not dunking head deep left.

On these forums, the right mistakes me for a communist or socialist. The left simply ignores what I say without engaging at all.

On other sites, the left think that I am a Neoconservative. And Neoconservatives there ignore my post. Why? Because those forums are left and far left. Here the forums are right and far right. Yet I am actually center.

Now you can ignore someone 20 to 40 years younger, you can even block me if you want... But I exist, I live in the world you handed me and my generation and we will not be spoken down to by those who have fucked this nation up and refuse to work to fix it.

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Robert, you are making an ass of yourself. You comment in almost each and every topic. Outside of the military, have you traveled outside of your hometown much?

You clog up almost every topic to the point that ppl can't develop conversations. You comment on everyone's comment, like this last example.

Why not take a few days break and let the forums return to normal for a bit?

You constantly argue with ppl 20-40 yrs your senior. You don't think that other ppl have experienced and lived thru a lot of what you babble about?

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Rebert...I wasn't making any comment on the politics of the issue, I was simply correcting maritimers on his statement

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Party:

1) what happened 150 years ago or he'll any time before 1948 when the Palestinians and Isreal had a chance at a two state solution and the Palestinians chose the wrong side of the war... Is meaningless to today.

Officially Isreal hasn't said that they have a right to all the land... And if they wanted the land, they could more than easilly have taken it and this all would have been done with long ago.

2) those using ancient Isreal as a cover don't hold power, only those who demand that those who attack them, those who give aid and comfort to those who attacks Isreal, gain control over the radicals who would cunduct war with Isreal.

Until these hostile forces are stopped, the Palestinians shouldn't know peace, for they as a people refuse to have peace themselves.

No matter the crying of the Palestinians, no matter what the UN does. No one is going to lose the lives I would cost to take from Isreal what it now has, least of all to give it to a people who's men refuse to trade their lives for the chance of obtaining peace.

It would be more cost effective to take that land and give it to the rebels from Syria.

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20,000 Marines were let go. Military budget being slashed. Foreign aid to an ally cut. And then Obama turns around and pushes for a $700MM in aid to the palestinians, anyone with a logical explanation? I emphasize logical. Please, no conspiracy non sense that he's a Muslim or any of that crap, please!

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Maritimers..... The ancient Jews in the holy land were not Nubian and Ethiopian transplants, but captives from war and conquest of the lower kingdom against the upper kingdom when Egypt was divided. These were the Hebrews of the old testament. )The entire Kingdom was Monotheistic for a cup of coffee, the the ruler who embraced it was quickly disposed) The Upper kingdom was monotheistic and there are still uber orthodox Jews in Sudan and Ethiopia today

The European Jews were and are indeed Turkik wanderers

This is not my "contention" this is historical, anthropological, and genetic fact.

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Traditionally, Afghanistan is not in the middle east. Even though some people think of it as part of the middle east, it belongs in Central Asia.

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Afghanistan is suspected of having more more rear metals than any place else on earth.

If they were to tap into the metals and sell at market value, they would be the OPEC of metals.

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All of us to figure it out? what the heck?

The area is of paramount importance to the world. You may think that the Middle East has nothing to offer based on your posts in the China thread. But you couldn't be further from the truth.

I've yet to meet anyone that served in the military who simply shrugs at the region and says the heck with them. That is just not how the cookie crumbles. The region is of paramount importance to the big players.

You may not wish to discuss the topic, but simply dismissing it by claiming that the region has nothing to offer, is simply wrong.

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