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User Details are only visible to members.	While there's potentially plenty more to be said on the issue, it should be said on the new civil war thread, agreed.
Chesapeake VA			Username hidden (11760 post)

User Details are only visible to members.	While the civil war was mostly about state rights, the south the banning of new states from adopting slavery as an attack on slavery and the right of the state. Something that these southern states had to learn was that as a nation develops... it must become more unified under a common government. You are seeing this across the world today with the number of nations that exist independent of each other becoming fewer and fewer. The boarders to these nations are dissolving, the importance of citizenship within these nations is being reduced and the very concept of being a citizen of a single nation becoming blurred. You can't exist within a bubble of independence if you want to be part of something bigger than yourself and that is what the southern states wanted to do. They wanted each state to be next to independent of the greater nation, and to be allowed to continue slavery. Where there other issues of state rights? yes.. but the only issue of importance was slavery of another human being, and NO issue worthy of war. As far as I am concerned, every general of the South should have been hung, every congressmen or leader of the south, imprisoned and all property taken to pay for war damages caused by the treasonist actions of the South. Even in the 1800s, this nation had a vote, the people a vote. That is how a civilized nation decides its future and if the number of people who see things in one light are too few... they DO NOT have a right (in any definition of the word) to take up arms so long as the vote remains. (which the power of the vote did in fact remain.) enough said on this issue.
Hazle Township PA			Username hidden (4810 post)

User Details are only visible to members.	You misunderstand 8inch...... I always contended the Civil War was largely about states rights vs the federal government. I'm just amazed we agree on something - especially something people consider controversial.
Chesapeake VA			Username hidden (11760 post)

User Details are only visible to members.	Can I ask for a huge favor gang? Can we not stray away from the topic? I really really was hoping that we can keep this topic litter free and on topic. Thank you kindly.
Colts Neck NJ			Username hidden (12259 post)

User Details are only visible to members.	VA. you, perf and jfeb or whatever his screen name is, are the biggest Doubting Thomases known in this forum. If ending slavery was the primary goal, why did Lincoln state that he did not intend to promote or dissolve slavery. Look at the yr he ran for first term and the yr the amendment was created. Lincoln sad that he didn't care if it ended or continued (he wanted the war to end). Not until the freed blacks became about ten percent of the union troops late in the war, did the North have that defining edge of (healthy, fighting) mass numbers. It was like our mission changed from locating Weapons of Mass Destruction, to Iraqi Freedom, and give them democracy and stability. The tune changed, but you ppl kept dancing to the original beat but didn't miss a step. I guess this is where you google the net, or just pull something outta your ass? state rights (on more than slavery issues).... And finance were the cases. The South had almost free labor, the cotton gin, and Europe waiting on their cotton. They could not finance and feed their troops when their bread and butter export was cut off... As well was the trains and sea lanes being sealed off. England fought to keep us under their thumb. They ended slavery.... The French were against it. The statue of Liberty shows that. But, I'm sure you are gonna say I'm wrong.
Tempe AZ			Username hidden (2030 post)

User Details are only visible to members.	"once the abolitionist and others in the north (Repubs) twisted our war into an issue about slavery. It was about states' rights in the beginning" falls out of his chair in disbelief" Sounds just like Perf.
Lakeside CA			Username hidden (15722 post)

User Details are only visible to members.	"once the abolitionist and others in the north (Repubs) twisted our war into an issue about slavery. It was about states' rights in the beginning" falls out of his chair in disbelief
Chesapeake VA			Username hidden (11760 post)

User Details are only visible to members.	Ya know, looking at this UN, USA, taking sides with Israel is a play on their religiosity beliefs, conscience, and fear of the unknown after death (god). Seems similar to how the US North, in my opinion, used the same religious, conscience guilt trip on Europe. France, nor England could not dare side with the South, once the abolitionist and others in the north (Repubs) twisted our war into an issue about slavery. It was about states' rights in the beginning, but when the North freed and armed blacks and black slaves (like Israel), it was stronger against the South (Palistine). Both the US and Israel are viewed as Christian, and sharing a same belief and less radical. The South thought blacks were inferior. America, the West, and some of Europe call the Palestinians the same. Even had some here call them sub human.
Tempe AZ			Username hidden (2030 post)

User Details are only visible to members.	the teacher needs to be evaluated for possible mental breaks... if so discovered... then forcably retired for their past good works. The reason the teacher can't keep their job is that the teacher has now started to be physical with their students... NO teacher should be allowed to touch another student without the prior consent of the student and parents of that student.
Hazle Township PA			Username hidden (4810 post)

User Details are only visible to members.	I saw that.... I like to try and give people the benefit of the doubt. 23 years of good service and suddenly does something this crazy? What's up with that?
Chesapeake VA			Username hidden (11760 post)

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