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User Details are only visible to members.	In recent months, the chorus of those calling for the Munich 11 to be properly memorialized has grown louder. Various influential leaders and governments -- including President Barack Obama, Republican presidential hopeful Mitt Romney, legendary sports broadcaster Bob Costas, the U.S. Senate,Germany, Canada and Australia -- have all come out in support of a moment of silence, and more than 100,000 people around the world have signed petitions in support of this effort. While IOC officials have attended Israeli-organized memorial events over the past decades and have pledged to send high-level delegations to an August 6 event in London and September 5 event in Munich, they can no longer hide behind their refusal to memorialize the Munich Massacre during the opening ceremonies as a principled stance against politics. It is, in fact, just the opposite. It is an act of common human decency, not politics, to take a moment to commemorate those who died as Olympic athletes. This past Monday, perhaps due to growing pressure, IOC President Jacques Rogge did hold a moment of silence for the Israeli athletes at the Olympic Village. Yet only about 100 people were in attendance, and no advance notice was given. Rogge explained that "It's absolutely normal I should call for a remembrance of the Israeli athletes." This is indeed true, though Rogge got the venue very, very wrong. The time has come for the IOC to right their 40 years of indifference to the victims of the Munich Massacre, and properly honor their memory with a moment of silence during Friday's opening Olympic ceremonies. If not, the truth will be plainly obvious -- the IOC doesn't want to honor the memory of the dead athletes because they had the "misfortune" of not being French, Swiss or Georgian; they were Israelis, and therefore are being held to a different standard. We fervently hope to be proven wrong.
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User Details are only visible to members.	This Friday in London, the 2012 Summer Olympic Games will get underway with all the usual pageantry and grand references to the history of this most famous and ancient of athletic competitions. One chapter of Olympics history that the International Olympic Committee has ensured will not be mentioned during the opening ceremonies is the Munich Massacre -- the brutal terrorist murder of 11 Israeli athletes and coaches at the 1972 Munich Summer Olympic Games. For 40 years Olympic officials have ignored or rebuffed efforts to memorialize this horrific event. We can't allow the Olympics to be "politicized," IOC officials have said over and over again. But in what way is Olympians commemorating fellow slain athletes who were murdered at the Olympics a political gesture? It is long past time to debate these points. At a memorial service held on September 6, 1972 at the Munich Olympic Stadium, then-IOC President Avery Brundage famously said, "The games must go on." Since 1972, IOC officials have continued to justify their refusal to commemorate the Munich Massacre as a principled stance against the politicization of the games. And yet this "principle" seemingly did not apply to the opening ceremonies of the 2002 Winter Games in Salt Lake City, which rightfully included numerous references and tributes to the victims of the 9/11 attacks. When catastrophe struck the 2010 Vancouver Olympic Games with the tragic death of Georgian luge slider Nodar Kumaritashvili during a practice run, the IOC appropriately honored his memory during the opening ceremonies with a moment of silence and by flying the Georgian and Olympic flags at half-staff, undoubtedly a fitting tribute to a lost Olympian. In 1973, Ankie Spitzer, the wife of murdered Israel fencing coach, Andrei Spitzer, wrote the IOC respectfully requesting that the Munich 11 be remembered at the upcoming Montreal Olympics. She never received a reply. Since then, Ms. Spitzer and other victim's families have continued to write, calling for an official recognition and moment of silence to remember. Yet, from Montreal, Moscow, Los Angeles and Seoul, to Barcelona, Atlanta, Sydney, Athens and Beijing, the only commemorations organized have been done so by the Israeli Olympic Committee and the Israeli Foreign Ministry. The IOC's failure to commemorate the Munich Massacre on this 40th anniversary would be hypocrisy and politicization enough just looking at these double-standard examples. But the hypocrisy is hugely magnified by virtue of the fact that the Munich terrorist event was by far the greatest assault ever on the Olympics themselves. The cold-blooded murder of Olympians at the hands of Palestinian terrorists completely undermined the competitive spirit of the Olympics, and one would think that the organizers, without prodding, would have long ago seen the need to commemorate this unique event, upholding the deep integrity of the games.
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User Details are only visible to members.	Let it also be known that Mitt Romney will be visiting Israel on his trip to visit and to shore up support for the campaign.
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User Details are only visible to members.	2011: In a shocking first, the State Department formalizes ties with Egypt’s Brotherhood, letting diplomats deal directly with Brotherhood party officials in Cairo. April 2012: The administration quietly releases $1.5 billion in foreign aid to the new Egyptian regime. June 2012: Morsi wins presidency amid widespread reports of electoral fraud and voter intimidation by gun-toting Brotherhood thugs — including blockades of entire streets to prevent Christians from going to the polls. The Obama administration turns a blind eye, recognizes Morsi as victor. June 2012: In a victory speech, Morsi vows to instate Shariah law, turning Egypt into an Islamic theocracy, and also promises to free jailed terrorists. He also demands Obama free World Trade Center terrorist and Brotherhood leader Omar Abdel-Rahman, a.k.a. the Blind Sheik, from U.S. prison. June 2012: State grants visa to banned Egyptian terrorist who joins a delegation of Brotherhood officials from Egypt. They’re all invited to the White House to meet with Obama’s deputy national security adviser, who listens to their demands for the release of the Blind Sheik. July 2012: Obama invites Morsi to visit the White House this September. The Muslim Brotherhood’s sudden ascendancy in the Mideast didn’t happen organically. It was helped along by a U.S. president sympathetic to its interests over those of Israel and his own country.
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User Details are only visible to members.	2011: Qaradawi, exiled from Egypt for 30 years, is given a hero’s welcome in Tahrir Square, where he raises the banner of jihad. 2011: Through his State Department office, William Taylor — Clinton’s special coordinator for Middle East transitions and a longtime associate of Brotherhood apologists —gives Brotherhood and other Egyptian Islamists special training to prepare for the post-Mubarak elections. 2011: The Brotherhood wins control of Egyptian parliament, vows to tear up Egypt’s 30-year peace treaty with Israel and reestablishes ties with Hamas, Hezbollah. 2011: Obama gives Mideast speech demanding Israel relinquish land to Palestinians, while still refusing to visit Israel. 2011: Justice Department pulls plug on further prosecution of U.S.-based Brotherhood front groups identified as collaborators in conspiracy to funnel millions to Hamas.
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User Details are only visible to members.	2009: The Brotherhood’s spiritual leader — Sheikh Yusuf Qaradawi — writes an open letter to Obama arguing terrorism is a direct response to U.S. foreign policy. 2009: Obama travels to Cairo to deliver apologetic speech to Muslims, and infuriates the Mubarak regime by inviting banned Brotherhood leaders to attend. Obama deliberately snubs Mubarak, who was neither present nor mentioned. He also snubs Israel during the Mideast trip. 2009: Obama appoints a Brotherhood-tied Islamist — Rashad Hussain — as U.S. envoy to the Organization of the Islamic Conference, which supports the Brotherhood. 2010: State Department lifts visa ban on Tariq Ramadan, suspected terrorist and Egyptian-born grandson of Brotherhood founder Hassan al-Banna. 2010: Hussain meets with Ramadan at American-sponsored conference attended by U.S. and Brotherhood officials. 2010: Hussain meets with the Brotherhood’s grand mufti in Egypt. 2010: Obama meets one-on-one with Egypt’s foreign minister, Ahmed Aboul Gheit, who later remarks on Nile TV: “The American president told me in confidence that he is a Muslim.” 2010: The Brotherhood’s supreme guide calls for jihad against the U.S. 2011: Qaradawi calls for “days of rage” against Mubarak and other pro-Western regimes throughout Mideast. 2011: Riots erupt in Cairo’s Tahrir Square. Crowds organized by the Brotherhood demand Mubarak’s ouster, storm buildings. 2011: The White House fails to back longtime ally Mubarak, who flees Cairo. 2011: White House sends intelligence czar James Clapper to Capitol Hill to whitewash the Brotherhood’s extremism. Clapper testifies the group is moderate, “largely secular.”
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User Details are only visible to members.	Investor’s Business Daily. The Obama Record: After angry Egyptians pelted her motorcade with shoes, chanting “Leave!,” Secretary of State Clinton insisted the U.S. wasn’t there to take sides. Too late. “I want to be clear that the United States is not in the business, in Egypt, of choosing winners and losers, even if we could, which of course we cannot,” Hillary Clinton intoned earlier this week. Of course, the administration could, and it did, picking and even colluding with the Muslim Brotherhood. And one of its hard-liners, Mohammed Morsi, now sits in the presidential palace, where he refused to shake unveiled Clinton’s hand. This administration favored Islamists over secularists and helped them overthrow Hosni Mubarak, the reliable U.S. ally who had outlawed the terrorist Brotherhood and honored the peace pact with Israel for three decades. The Brotherhood, in contrast, has backed Hamas and called for the destruction of Israel. Now the administration is dealing with the consequences of its misguided king-making. Officials fear the new regime could invite al-Qaida, now run by an Egyptian exile, back into Egypt and open up a front with Israel along the Sinai. Result: more terrorists and higher gas prices. In fact, it was Hillary’s own department that helped train Brotherhood leaders for the Egyptian elections. Behind the scenes, she and the White House made a calculated decision, and took step-by-step actions, to effectively sell out Israel and U.S. interests in the Mideast to the Islamists. The untold story of the “Arab Spring” is that the Obama administration secretly helped bring Islamofascists to power. Consider this timeline:
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User Details are only visible to members.	Sedu: Links are NOT the topic, they are supporting your topic. Don't be lazy and not present your case in the space this site allows you to do so in.
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User Details are only visible to members.	I don't check every link someone throws at me... If you can't state in your post clearly that we the US had him in our custody... then that is your failing to communicate clearly. If you don't check the link that people post in response, then don't get involved in the thread, because you're not addressing the topic, you're being Off Topic and irrelevant. In the future if you do that again, I will start ignoring you as I have for months. I'm not here to spoon feed you.
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User Details are only visible to members.	Sedu: Actually reading what you wrote, sounded like this guy was in the hands of those in the mid-east... not the US. FYI, I don't check every link someone throws at me... If you can't state in your post clearly that we the US had him in our custody... then that is your failing to communicate clearly. That said, if we had him, then what justifications were made for letting him go?
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