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TOPIC: Is there an honest liberal here
Created by: perfectmatch69
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At what point is our debt too high? You can give a dollar amount or percent of GDP.

How do you plan to stop us from getting there, or what plan do you have if when we reach that level?

I just don't see how we can continue on this path. About 50% of American homes receive some kind of Gov't money that doesn't include Social Security. You Democrats can't continue buying votes with taxpayer dollars.

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they should be triad for murder.and if found guity, pay the price.being triad for terrorism is just add on bullshit...............BS

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NONE of those protections apply before a grand jury. Those are the very protections that you proposed to strip away from a U.S. citizen if he wasn't born here.

Almost correct..... add in "if he was accused of terrorism."

Do you know how a Grand Jury works? I think such a panel would do a great job as the entity for designation of Enemy Combatant.

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"but President Clinton pushed hard for its passage."

I thought he never had sex with that woman...

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""Everyone is alleged until a guilty verdict is handed out" -T 

"Sure, it just depends on what 'alleged' lets you do to them. Maybe there should be something similiar to a Grand Jury that decides if the evidence dictates designation of Enemy Combatant for naturalized suspects in these types of attacks. " 

There's the context, free from spin. ============ Thanks for sharing that additional context; it reinforces exactly what I had said. Between your "maybe" grand jury and any guilty verdict, there are constitutional and due process protections such as confrontation of the charges and witnesses against you, the ability to call witnesses in your defense, the right to a jury trial, and the assistance of legal counsel throughout. 

NONE of those protections apply before a grand jury. Those are the very protections that you proposed to strip away from a U.S. citizen if he wasn't born here.

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Some here may be too young, or not want to admit they're old enough, to remember Pat and her Dickie.

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""Everyone is alleged until a guilty verdict is handed out" -T

"Sure, it just depends on what 'alleged' lets you do to them. Maybe there should be something similiar to a Grand Jury that decides if the evidence dictates designation of Enemy Combatant for naturalized suspects in these types of attacks. "

There's the context, free from spin.

Pittsburgh PA
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OK, now that's funny.

But honestly, I'm easily amused.

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I thought Dick Nixon was the only one who got it down Pat.

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He had that confident, take charge rap down pat; he would have been a hit at parties.

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He invoked the 69th amendment.

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