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TOPIC: Iraq: The Price of Failure
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FWIW, my dad, who had just finished a couple years in Africa and Europe, was happy to spend the next year drinking beer and vodka with Russian soldiers in Germany, rather than re-deploying to the Pacific.
Then again, we didn't go to war against Japan in order to "liberate" and "bring democracy" to them. We went to war against Japan because the Japanese went to war against the US. |
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Mao is dead and his politics are dead in China. Free market is taking china over they can taste the money.
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"Really damn then I was the only one watching the news on 9-11-2001. Been to an air port lately?"
Islamic fundamentalists don't make the laws that govern airport policy. And on 9-11, this country was attacked by criminals and murdering thugs. Their leader still breaths. Those people should be punished, but that doesn't exonerate our own elected murdering thugs. |
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Lucky wrote:
"These bombs were dropped for one reason only, Mother Russia. A warning and a threat to the rest of the world not to fuck with us." ---------------------------------------------------------------------- I am not sure that was the reason. I do believe it turned out to send that message to Russia, and much of the world intrepreted that way. However, at the time they were dropped, I think Truman's concern was saving American lives and ending the war. We had already lost over 250,000, Truman did not want nor did the American Public want to lose another 250,000. |
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"Really damn then I was the only one watching the news on 9-11-2001. "
Fascism involves a blending of nationalism, militarism, and corporatism. Radical Islam appears to be more a refutation of nationalism and corporatism. If you don't understand your enemy, you create more enemies than are necessary. |
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Let popular opinion decide which of you is right and which is the demon.
Now that is funny Are you sure you dont belong to the American communist party there ER you quote them so well and agree with them a lot? |
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I have never been subjected to the whims or desires of an Islamic Fascist.
Really damn then I was the only one watching the news on 9-11-2001. Been to an air port lately? |
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"But Lemay DID want to immediately escalate the Cuban Missle Crisis by trying to bomb Cuban missle sites. All it would have taken at that point would have been one on-the-ground Russian to decide to launch before his missle got taken out, and we'd have been right on the path to Armageddon."
------------------------------------------------------------------------ My understanding is LeMay recommended strategic bombing, not the use of nuclear weapons. As far as the Russian's retaliating by launching a nuke, you may be right and that is a good subject to debate. |
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I don't see anything wrong with demonizing your opposition when they are in fact really demons. Chairman Mao said that the more boisterously your oppostion harangues you, the better the job you have done delineating your planks from his. Let popular opinion decide which of you is right and which is the demon.
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Oh great - now we're introducing terms like "Islamic Fascism" which do exactly what I was talking about earlier - frame the opposition in the most radical of terms.
And it works! The more we say things like "Islamo-fascism" and "crusades and jihad" and "kill them there so we don't have to fight them here", the more enemies in the Muslim world we seem to find. Randy Newman had it right . . . "let's drop the big one, there'll be nooone left to blame us" |
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