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I must agree with Mark. Bombing without occupation will not stop the development of nuclear weapons and occupation when we play pussy isn't a long term victory as we cannot stay long enough to destroy the strangle hold religion holds upon these people... much less change their way of life.

Germany and Japan accepted that they were wrong and the occupations of their nations were short and now they are allies or at the least not pointing guns at us.

The middle east isn't Germany or Japan, they have nothing worth living for and everything worth dying for. You cannot stop such men with anything but total death and destruction which only an occupation can bring... You might also wish to resurrect Hitler, Stalin, Po pot and a few others who did Genocide on a mass scale... As they have the stomachs for such death, I do not.

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"Perf: Bombing without occupation does not work."

It depends on what, who, and how often you bomb. Our technology has greatly increased since WWII and Korea.

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Seems to me Cuba once did try to have nuclear weapons.

Admittedly they didn't manufacture them, but still, it almost led to war.

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Perf: Bombing without occupation does not work. All it does is piss people off. About the only people shock and ah scared the shit out of was our own Air Force Generals. The Japanese bombed the crap out of Pearl Harbor but did not occupy. We bombed the holy crap out of North Vietnam but did not occupy. despite all the bombing we did Germany kept up it's war effort in WW II full steam; until us and the Russians began to take Germany by occupation.

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"Who do we get to dictate that to and who don't we? "

Pretty simple really. We get to dictate it to anybody we feel would be a threat and anybody we can dominate militarily. It all depends on how politically correct we want to be and how much balls we have.

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I didn't say we didn't have a good reason to want them to not have them. I asked why we get to tell anyone they can or cannot.

What if Mexico decided it wanted nuclear weapons? The Bahamas? Cuba? Who do we get to dictate that to and who don't we?

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Sorry, I meant incursion. Iran will not be stopped any other way.

As to who we are we to tell another nation what it can or cannot have?

Well, I suppose if we didn't have strategic interest in the area, or allies to protect from public threats of annihilation, or if oil was of no demand, or Iran acquiring nuclear capabilities wouldn't create a nuclear arms race in an already volitle region at a time when were reducing the world's nuclear stockpiles. Your question would have merit, I suppose :).

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"Iran will be The US's next "Middle Eastern" invasion. "

We don't HAVE to INVADE either. Do you think Israel would invade Iran? Nope.

Boooommmmbbbb IIIraaaaaan.

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"On one hand, we really don't want them having nuclear weapons. On the other, why do we get to say that another country can't have them? "

That's the liberal side of VAB talking. :-)

We don't HAVE to fight NICE.

Bomb, bomb, bomb....bomb, bomb Iran.

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We don't have the military force to invade them.

We don't have the political will to invade, conquer and rebuild a nation... Both Afghanistan and Iraq have proven this fact very clearly and we had public support for both wars in their onset.

We cannot invade and win in the middle east. We aren't blood thirsty enough to win vrs people who will not stop fighting us until they and their families are dead.

We aren't the soviet union and even Russia/China aren't so blood thirsty as to pick a fight with loser nations like Iran, NK or others who think that their hand full of special weapons mean that they could win a war.

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