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Toomuch:

What is the difference between an oppressive government and an oppressive business?

Answer, at some point, the government provides for the people, business will not.

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Okay Robert. You obviously believe what you are saying, stick with it bud at least you believe in something.

I personally believe you are wrong. You assume the power you want to give the government to manage control EVERYTHING will be benign. That isn't how it works, the people in charge will serve themselves first and a government that strong will be corrupted. The final result will be far more oppressive than individual businesses. Take a look at the history of democracies and republics in the past and see if it didn't happen every time.

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Toomuch:

"Businesses exist to make profit, this is why the people who build successful businesses sacrifice for a long period of time. When you see IBM you see a successful corporation oppressing the masses, at some point in the past it was one guy working his ass off."

No one should prosper on the backs of exploitation, no one. So if a company pays poverty wages to its employees, then the business owners or investors should be taxed 100% of the total cost of that aid and the cost of ensuring that aid reaches those employees.

If this places that business out of business, then so be it. The environment that business owner tried to start their business in was too depressed for the real cost of doing business. ( paying a living wage to the employees and the taxes to maintain a civilization.)

"Robert: Businesses that make a regular practice of ripping people off don't last. Cheating customers is bad for business. Get government involved and then the cheating starts, businesses influences legislation so competitors get cut off at the knees for example."

Government is involved, because business refuses to provide wages, such that the people do not have to turn to the government.

Government is involved, because business has raped and pilliaged this nation sense its birth.

Government is involved, because business has not evolved to become a force for good, to uplift people.

Government is involved, because business is fast outliving its usefulness.

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Uriah:

"Washington (CNN) – More than half the public says Obamacare has helped either their families or others across the country, although less than one in five Americans say they have personally benefited from the health care law, according to a new national poll."

http ://politicalticker.blogs.cnn. com/2014/07/23/cnn-poll-is-obamacare-working/?hpt=hp_bn3

You must be looking at a CNN poll from another universe.

"According to the poll, only 18% of the public say they or their families are better off now that the major provisions of the health care law have been implemented. Another 35% report that, while their lives have not improved, the Affordable Care Act has benefited other people in the U.S. Add those two numbers together, and that means 53% say that Obamacare has helped either their families or others across the country.

Forty-four percent tell us that the health care law has not helped anyone in the country."

""Not all of the opposition to the health care law comes from the right," said CNN Polling Director Keating Holland. "Thirty-eight percent say they oppose the law because it's too liberal, but 17% say they oppose it because it's not liberal enough. That means more than half the public either favors Obamacare, or opposes it because it doesn't go far enough."

As expected, the poll indicates a continued wide partisan divide between Democrats and Republicans over the law and whether it’s working."

Ah there is the source of your bias and lie... You are Republican/Tea party... So of course you will lie to make it sound like the vast majority are on your side, when we are almost evenly divided and leaning toward the left.

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Robert: Businesses that make a regular practice of ripping people off don't last. Cheating customers is bad for business. Get government involved and then the cheating starts, businesses influences legislation so competitors get cut off at the knees for example.

Businesses exist to make profit, this is why the people who build successful businesses sacrifice for a long period of time. When you see IBM you see a successful corporation oppressing the masses, at some point in the past it was one guy working his ass off.

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Sexy:

Lets get some things straight.

First, business has always ripped the consumer off.

Second, business turned the relationship into a seemingly hostile environment, by reducing wages, outsourcing, and paying way too much to wallstreet investors.

Beyond this, your innate distrust for anyone, prevents any rational debate, likely because you rip people off and expect to be ripped off. If you want my sympathy? Join my side of the war, and force business to pay living wages, which drive demand for products WITHOUT the employees qualifying for any government aid program...

Or just stop your childish whinning, because you will not gain my, or any other rational minded persons support for your rape and pilliaged of this Marion's wealth we steal from our children.

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The number of Americans that Obamacare’s hurting is double the amount it’s helping, according to a Wednesday CNN poll.

Thirty-five percent of adult American respondents said they’re worse off under the auspices of Obamacare, while just 18 percent say they’re better off. While a plurality of Americans think the health care law hasn’t had much of an effect on them so far, the feeling that the health care law is hurting families is far more prevalent.

When asked whether Obamacare’s helped other families, the results were just as bleak. Forty-four percent of respondents said Obamacare “has not helped anyone in the country,” while 35 percent said it’s probably made other families better off.

In general, 59 percent oppose Obamacare as a policy, while 40 percent favor the health care law. The percentage of voters opposed to Obamacare is up slightly from March, the last time CNN conducted the poll, but opposition has grown slightly on average since the health care exchanges opened.

And over twice as many of those opposed to the health care law dislike it because it’s too liberal, rather than because it’s not liberal enough. Thirty-eight percent disapprove of Obamacare because it’s too liberal; just 17 percent oppose it for not being liberal enough.

Public opinion on the health care law has remained negative fairly consistently, but the law’s supporters have argued that once Americans begin to feel its benefits the tide will turn in their favor. With many more Americans still failing to see any personal benefit from the health care law halfway into its first active year, it seems unlikely that the trend will be changing soon.

Source: CNN (hardly a right-wing bunker)

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I just bought a package of Twinkies today. Remember when there used to be 3 nice sized Twinkies in a package? About five years ago, the number was reduced to two Twinkies per package, and the price went up a bit soon thereafter. The package I bought today still contained two Twinkies, but their size was maybe 3/4 the size previously sold - for the same price. I'm now expecting a tiny price rise every once in a while in future. Point is, it's not only our corrupt Government who tries to fool us about inflation, businesses are inclined to follow suit as they struggle to stay in business in the hostile environment created by our Bureaucratic Government.

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havingfuntogether,

He's using the same math that the Federal Reserve uses to tell us that inflation is low, when everyone who buys food and any kind of energy in the last 5 years knows otherwise.

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TBR,

Educate yourself. Look up one term, "baseline budgeting". That will tell you all you need to know.

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